I happen to be in total agreement, Mary. Thanks for stating so eloquently
what I could not. I am so fed up with this grotesque marketing scheme...if
it could be referred to as such. We, too, are looking towards purchasing
another product rather than dealing with Harbinger/Peregrine.
Liza Carta
Programmer/Analyst
HoMedics World Headquarters
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Scanlan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Fwd: In response to Kayla]
SOOOO.... since there are several of us feeling rather negatively about the
Harbinger forcing us into upgrading or losing support - ADDRESS this issue.
December is nearing quickly and I for one am leaning towards purchasing
another
product before putting any further $$ into the Harbinger/Peregrine pockets.
I
feel my company PAID enough for the TLE product and should not have to
purchase
another product every time your company feels the need to line it's pockets.
I'm NOT posting under a phantom e-mail.
Matt Park wrote:
> Myself (and many other sales reps, managers etc) have been listening to
all
> the discussion back and forth between our users and former users and we
have
> been taking the appropriate actions internally to address the issues
brought
> up. One of the main reasons I (and I would presume others) have not
> responded to the group as a whole is that I have been a member of many
many
> lists in the past and I like to see an open discussion on both sides
without
> sales/marketing fluff. Typically when a salesperson comes on and tries to
> defend or promote their product they are immediately told that this is not
a
> proper forum for that type of activity and I agree. I am in sales and
this
> is NOT a sales list. It is a discussion list and therefore it is for
> discussing the merits (and demerits) of various products between end
users.
> I am not here to shamelessly market my product, or tell you that my
product
> is the best thing since sliced bread and how our competition has many of
the
> same problems or various and sundry other problems, but rather to address
> issues with my own customers who might not want to mention their problems
> directly to me so that I can better service them and contact them offline
> and off list. It is also a great way to see how our products are being
used
> in the marketplace and what our competition is doing in order to improve
our
> own product.
>
> Bottom line is that I did not feel it was proper for me to address the
list
> as a whole given my position in the company since, as I have already
> mentioned, this is not a sales list but a discussion list. However rest
> assured that we ARE listening and we ARE taking actions where appropriate.
> Other than stating that I can't really comment on specific cases that I am
> not involved in. I do take this list very seriously and attempt to
rectify
> any problems and escalate issues properly within our organization.
>
> On a side note I have noticed that quite a few of the negative comments
have
> been coming from phantom email adresses such as yahoo and hotmail. Who
> knows who these people are? I cannot respond effectively to someone who
> hides behind a secondary/hidden email address in order to bash my product
> without specific details about their particular situation. If any of you
> with those sorts of addresses would like to discuss particular issues
> offline I wouldn't mind taking the time to at least direct you to the
right
> person if I am not your rep.
>
> Finally, I am not here to get into a huge argument with anyone so my
> responses will likely be limited at best. I just felt it was time for
> someone from the Sales force to give you some sort of a response. Thanks
> for your time.
>
> Matt Park
> Account Executive
> Peregrine's E-Business Connectivity Group
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Fax: (404) 467-3365
> Phone: (800) 555-2989 ext. 3365
> www.peregrine.com
>
> Legal Note: The above message reflects my personal opinion and does not
> necessarily reflect the opinion of Peregrine, Inc. or its employees.
>
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