The actual EDI structure is not that difficult to figure out, it is the
mapping (i.e. business logic) that gets interesting.
It is the old square peg into the round hole routine, i.e. trying to fit
data from usually a legacy system into
a generic format.
Dave Frenkel
----- Original Message -----
From: Martin A. Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: How to read ASC X12 implementation Guide
> Don't forget the "Hard-coded" looping structure(Like the 2010BA, 2010BB,
> 2010BC and 2010BD).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Foerster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:51 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: How to read ASC X12 implementation Guide
>
>
> Dan,
>
> Good advice. However, there are some "gotchas" in the HIPAA implementation
> Guides (the 837 is the health care claim transaction) that are deep deep
> potholes for the uninformed. For example, there's no such thing in a HIPAA
> guide as an "optional" use segment, element or code. All constructs are
> either "required", "not used", or "situational." This is only for
> starters.... There are also 3 different implementation guides for the 837,
> depending on the type of claim being submitted.
>
> Rachel
>
>
> Shikhar,
>
> I went through the same panic years ago when my boss asked me to
> take over the part-time (Ha!) EDI Administrator job here. I am a systems
> programmer responsible for our Unisys (Sperry) Mainframe. I understood
> operating systems, multitasking, and compiler software. EDI was a strange
> animal to me. Maybe through my experiences you can form an action plan of
> your own.
>
> First thing I tried was reading the standards manuals for the
> transaction sets we were trading. Like you, they were <sarcasm on> a big
> help <sarcasm off>. What got me going and understanding EDI was this:
>
> Take the mapping and administration courses offered by your EDI
> software vendor. I took the Unisys courses taught by Jim Jack, an
excellent
> instructor, and later the St. Paul Commerce, now TIE Commerce, courses
under
> Walter Ralston, another excellent instructor and resource.
>
> Join a EDI User's Group. I believe NEECOM is near you. I drove
> from Iowa to Milwaukee to attend meetings of the Bar Code and EDI User's
> council. (Where I live in Iowa, Milwaukee was closer than Des Moines.) I
> made contacts and asked questions.
>
> Lastly, I wrote new guides to the transaction sets we were using.
> It forces you to interact with the application programmers to understand
> what information they are looking for and how they get it from the files
> your EDI translator creates.
>
> I don't know if you have to deal with a VAN or track documents.
> That is a whole 'nother lesson. Good luck.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shikhar Srivastava"
>
>
> > I am a total newbie in this field ( EDI), new on the list and know
almost
> > nothing about EDI. This is a new responsibility I have been given. So
> > please forgive my ignorance.
> >
> > I am supposed to do something with our EDI operations , maps etc.
> >
> > So I started with getting hold of the Implementation guide for ANSI 837
> > transaction set, and that is really big.
> > These guides assume certain level of familiarity and understanding on
how
> > these transactions ( EDI Txns in general ) work. ( Looping, Hierarchical
> > level etc etc). I do not have that knowledge.
> > Now the question :
> > (i) I am looking for some resource ( a primer ) on how EDI files are
> > structured and How to read them. I understand that this will depend on
> > implementation so I am looking for general info.
> > (ii) Something on how to read an ANSI X12 implementation guide
> >
> > I have already wasted a lot of time looking on web for this but they
were
> > not exactly what I was looking for. Either they showed how /why of EDI
or
> > they provided just the implementation ( e.g. wpc-edi.com ) .
> >
> > I know I can find a lot for xml on web , but for EDI information
sources
> > look vague. Please help me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Shikhar Srivastava
> >
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