To take Leah's response one step further - just because the message is in the 
855, don't expect any one to see it.
In a lot of cases the MSG and NTE segments (or any other non-necessary to 
process segments) are dropped on
the floor.  You ~could~ stick it into an 864 or 824, but you'd be sending a lot 
of them.

If you feel comfort from adding the message, do it.  If you feel comfort from 
saying "but it was on the 855",
do it.  I just wonder if anyone will see it.

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From: Leah Halpin <[email protected]>
To: Ken Etter <[email protected]>; Jason McMahon <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:58:26 PM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack

The others are correct, if you want a legal opinion, ask a lawyer, if you want 
five legal opinions, ask five lawyers (or the same lawyer on five different 
days).  


EDI is supposed to be machine to machine.  Machines don't understand "the dates 
are estimated, not realistic".    Really, I'm not sure I do, either, perhaps 
your people meant "the dates are estimated, not actual"?  You see, it's not 
only 

the fact of putting a human readable comment in an electronic document meant to 
be read and interpreted by machines, but, even further, if the machine at the 
other end can "pass" the text to somewhere that a human might read it, how 
then, 

will they interpret the data, and will they have the power or knowledge or 
interest to update/change their system to reflect this?  Or will they just say, 
your shipment is late, if you do this again, we will stop buying from you.  
Also, think of this, if they can, and will, update their system manually, what 
are they supposed to update it to?  Most likely the ERP has an "expected due 
date" field, but, I'm almost positive it doesn't have a "perhaps we'll get it 
by 

sometime around the X of the Y month or maybe not" field.

Finally, why on earth aren't the dates actual?  Why are you sending bad data?  
If your company can't make the date required, then it's time for your sales 
guys 

to find their tinkerbells and call their customer and make nice.  That's what 
they get PAID for.

Leah





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From: Ken Etter <[email protected]>
To: Jason McMahon <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 1:23:18 PM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack

  
Yes, this is usually a question for your Legal but also you will need to 
involve 


any trading Partner the 855 is being sent to.  In most cases, the 855 specs are 
provided by your customer and they will need to indentify how they want to 
include any disclaimer in the 855.

As Jason pointed out, this is a legal issue and actually should probably be a 
part of any contract between your company and the customer.

Ken
[email protected]

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From: Jason McMahon <[email protected]>
To: Narayanan Bharadwaj <[email protected]>; edi list 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 1:02:51 PM
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack

  
This may be a question for the legal department. I have only seen this
language in the contracts themselves. However, such language could be used
in the MSG segments if this becomes necessary.

Sincerely,

Jason McMahon

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Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Narayanan Bharadwaj
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:49 PM
To: edi list
Subject: [EDI-L] Disclaimer in Po Ack

Hi all,just want to get your opinion on this.We are a distributor and have
been using Po Ack (855) with our end customers for quite some time
now.However, our business wants us to put a text message like "the dates are
estimated, not realistic"...to avoid any legal binding.
Just want to know if this is normal in EDI messages or if there could be any
implications...
Please share your commentsThanks ahead for your inputs.
Have a good day!!NB

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