I agree with Ken, having my resume posted on these job boards (and LinkedIn) is a definite help. There is one downside however. On occasion I have been notified by several recruiters for the same position at the same firm because they have all found me on-line. I usually go with the first recruiter if I am at all interested and qualified for the position.
Sincerely, Jason McMahon 8079 Village Drive Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] http://gutausse.weebly.com/articles.html <http://gutausse.blogspot.com/> http://gutausse.blogspot.com <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Etter Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:57 AM To: mwlblues; [email protected] Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Re: <SALES> Freelance EDI Consultant Available Matt, Here's a couple more pieces of food for thought: Are you aware that a growing number of cases recruiters will perform their own search (of job boards) and contact potential candidates prior to posting the position online themself? They do this to potentially save themself time and effort from having to field through a myriad of responses AND calls from interested candidates after the job is posted on a site. If they find a qualified candidate or candidate(s), they may not even have to post the postion. By posting a profile online and the recruiter contacting you in this manner, this also gives you a leg up ahead of the rest of the pack. Also by only using Word of Mouth you are subject to that person's point of reference, what they are hearing but more importantly timing, which may a day or more after the job has already been listed. By then you are contacting the recruiter or employer after a number of other candidates and in some cases, may never receive a call back, even if you are qualified, because the recruiter or employer will only review so many resumes and/or submit so many candidates at a time. This is also true for any jobs or opportunities which might be posted here on this group - the ones I post, I received usually a day or two beforehand and since I'm now working again, will forward them over to this group. I'm not knocking word of mouth referrals and think that is an essential part of any job or contract search, but I have found referrals to cause me to be behind the curve on getting my resume to the end employer (using another adage ' the early bird gets the worm') and would never rely on just using Word of Mouth. The same is true by manually checking job sites instead of using job alerts. Depending on what time you usually start your manual search, you can be several hours late and with the millions of IT workers looking, again, you are going to have to stand in line. It doesn't take long to get a resume set up online and then set up a job alert that will usually notify you of qualified positions between 12a-6a, depending on where you live. BTW, I agree with your change of pace or enjoying some down time (or even pursuing some much delayed professional training for that matter) and that is included in my own published Job search list that I'll provide if you care to see it. Thanks, Ken [email protected] <mailto:edispec%40yahoo.com> From: mwlblues <[email protected] <mailto:mwlblues%40yahoo.com> > To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:22 AM Subject: [EDI-L] Re: <SALES> Freelance EDI Consultant Available Thank you to everyone who have so generously shared their experiences and expertise. I will certainly give LinkedIn a closer look. Monster/Dice/CareerBuilder are undeniably good spots to find work - I usually prefer to respond to what's there vs uploading a resume - again in that preference I'm probably not making the right choice but I do have a bit more control over the degree of information and queries that need to be responded to. No risk of information overload, and needing to build up your "Sorry, I'm booked" muscles are not an issue either when the work is already there The good news in doing things the 'old-school' way, (word of mouth referrals to fill your schedule) is that after working 40 - 60 hrs a week for a while now by this method, when a down-day comes along on a Monday or a Tuesday I have to just relax and take the time to rest & recharge. The heat-wave has broken, and what better time time build that 10x12 equipment shed that I've been needing? A break in the pace is not necessarily a bad thing, in this case anyway Great group here! Matt Longfield --- In [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> , Ken Etter <edispec@...> wrote: > > Now here's a topic that's near and dear to my heart having gone through a number of jobs over the last 12 or so years, that ended for virtually every reason in the book; RIF, dept consolidation in another state, position outsourced, worked myself out of a job and the company eliminated the position after determining other staff could take care of the system now that it runs so well, etc., etc., etc. >  > I would think a successful key to any business or consultancy is networking and just not visiting your local Chamber of Commerce or Rotary meeting. And what better way to network than on Linkedin (not familiar with Farmtown). I would have to say if you're not on LinkedIn as an IT professional looking for new work, you're missing a key element to any marketing plan for a consultant. You can even set up job alerts to get qualified listings sent directly to your inbox, just like with regular job sites. Also there are a number of EDI and consulting related groups on LinkedIn which have job and contract postings virtually every day, that if you monitor those groups (receive emails alerts of new postings), you add even more potential to finding a new contract or job. >  > As to the regular job sites, especially Dice.com which is almost purely IT focused, would almost be a necessity to any successful search for a new job or contract. Actually when I'm looking, I use Monster, Careerbuilder, Dice, the state and regional job sites besides LinkedIn and two more I'll mention the following paragraph. I guess my thinking is I can set up job alerts on all of them that work for free in most, if not all, cases, so why not? It beats having to pay for advertising and you get your name out in front of numerous recruiters. And if you are open to doing remote work, you get nationwide exposure - try researching the cost of advertising on a nationwide level and I think you start to get an idea. >  > Also have you considered checking Sologig.com and guru.com?  A bit more competitive since there are a lot of overseas users who work for very low billing rates, but some companies want someone they can invite onsite every now and then. >  > The old dog, new tricks adage you mentioned may have already kept you from finding your next gig, so I'd recommend you consider checking into LinkedIn sooner than later.  Because your competition already is... >  > Ken > edispec@... > > From: mwlblues <mwlblues@...> > To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:27 PM > Subject: [EDI-L] Re: <SALES> Freelance EDI Consultant Available > > >  > Thanks Dave and Craig for the nice advice. > I have a LinkedIn account, and occasionally accept contacts and such, but I have to admit that social-media isn't a tool that I use too often. Old-dog-new-tricks I suppose. I've sworn off Farmtown and Facebook as the greatest time-suck apps of all time, even surpassing solitare (windows or linux versions). I suppose someday I'll need to embrace it, at least LinkedIn anyway. > > Sigh...the good ol' days. > At least it's Friday. Whooooo hoooooo! > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> , Dave Records <dave@> wrote: > > > > Craig, agree wholeheartedly! I'm on LinkedIn and Dice and I receive an average of 3 to 4 calls and emails a month for opportunities. > > > > Dave Records > > Records Consulting, LLC > > Email: dave@ > > > > > > On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Craig Dunham wrote: > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > I applaud your posting here and offering your services. There are a few of > > > us out here - EDI consultants, developers, etc. - and we all are always > > > looking for new gigs. > > > > > > May I also suggest that you search on the major job sites (Monster, Dice, > > > CareerBuilder, etc.) for jobs...? I don't know how long you've been a > > > member of EDI-L, but there are often postings on here for jobs needing to be > > > filled, many by recruiters and also by members who may be contacted by > > > recruiters and are passing the information on. > > > > > > Also, be sure to check out LinkedIn and many of the groups on there. There > > > are many times when recruiters are posting jobs to those groups... > > > > > > Good luck in finding new clients and positions to take on. > > > > > > Craig Dunham > > > Bear Necessities Computing > > > EDI Sherpa > > > Author/blogger > > > RetailEDI.com > > > EDITalk.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! 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