The potential unintended consequences of this could be that translator vendors will (obviously !!) pass this increased cost to their customers, who will ultimately refuse to pay increased prices, which will place intense pressures on both users/implementers of the standards and the vendors that provide solutions to them to seek other alternatives. X12 could end up pricing itself out of the market especially when we consider that HL7 instituted a new policy to make all of their standards publicly available at no cost for healthcare. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the marketplace.
Rachel Foerster 847-872-8070 From: EDI-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EDI-L@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Klaus-Dieter Naujok Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 1:13 PM To: EDI-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Standards price change? On Jun 29, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Leah Halpin wrote: > I would join my esteemed colleague Klaus-Dieter in asking for an explanation of this change in policy that provides any actual value for the annual fee. Leah, personally I don't care what DISA (X12) uses as argument(s) for their table data pricing. I don't question Mikes' account, it's Déjà vu for me. I was part of the original discussion, many many years ago, by the X12 StC when they agreed to bump up the table data price. It was the argument that most of those buying the table data never participated in the development but benefited through their product sales, and therefore should paying much more then X12 members. At that time I argued against it, making the point that in the end it will always be the users that will buy the higher price. Further, as we have seen over and over again, standards that price themselves too high may end up of becoming less relevant, especially if there are "free" standards available in the same domain area. We will see in time if the new pricing policy will have a negative effect on implementations. > Which, if it applies going forward, will mean 20% per version per year, which will become less trivial as time rolls on. Agree. Since the new pricing statement reads "Beginning with 006050, the price covers the use of the ASC X12 EDI Standard 006050 (Product) for one year....", we are lucky that it is not retro-active. But for a moment, just to show how quickly this figure mushrooms, let's assume it was retro-active for demonstration purpose. Most X12 commercial translator support the majority, if not all, of the X12 standards, for the 005xxx and 006xxx sets, applying such a maintenance fee for this year, besides the $800 for the current set, it would also require 9 x $160, a total of $1754. With each new release that figure will increase by another $160. Boy, what a "cash cow" that is. Lucky :-) for those that require those tables, for now it is only $800, but with each release that cost per year will increase and as Leah said "it will become less tribal." Klaus [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: edi-l-dig...@yahoogroups.com edi-l-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: edi-l-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
