Agree with most of what you say, Doug. However, I first joined X12 in May 1987 - when membership was in the 300 range - and then saw it climb to the 600-700 range in the early 1990s - and then saw the rapid decline in 1999 going forward. So, my observation is that X12 membership peaked in the mid-1990s and then began to decline in the early 2000s and is now somewhat plateaued.
And I did mis-speak when I spoke of DISA financials - I should have more correctly said X12. Re Steering Committee reporting, there is no open access to any StC documents, minutes, etc. The only time a member can gain any insight into StC activities is when one decides to observe during the standing meetings. Interim StC meetings are not open to membership observation. Rachel Foerster 847-872-8070 From: Doug Anderson [mailto:doug_ander...@kleinschmidt.com] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:25 AM To: 'rac...@rfa-edi.com'; 'Klaus-Dieter Naujok'; EDI-L@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Standards price change? Rachel You are correct, DISA/X12 does not release financial information. Membership information is available at any Steering Committee meeting and I believe the chair mentions it during the Monday general session. I don't know if declining membership is correct. Last figures I recall showed that we had 380 members on May 1st. In 2011, X12 had 600 members, primarily due to the member discount provided for the X12N TR3's. So the Steering Committee's goal of increasing membership by providing a discount worked. Unfortunately, we have not been able to retain all those that joined specifically for a discount. That said, membership was lower during the time period of 2005 to 2009. So overall membership has increased over the last 10 years. I worked with Peter Drucker back in my days at the American Trucking Associations. Yes, nothing lives forever. X12 has been trying to transform itself, and as you know has discussed numerous ways to continue the good work that it does. 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Or course this is only my observation since it's been years since DISA shared any information about the status of the organization: e.g., number of members, revenues, operating expenses, etc. When real companies find themselves in this kind of a downward spiral they either transform themselves or continue the death spiral. Many years ago in one of Peter Drucker's books I recall reading that the average life span of any organization is about 25 years - at which time it either transforms itself, become acquisition target or goes out of business. Nothing lives forever - does it :-)? Rachel Foerster 847-872-8070 -----Original Message----- From: EDI-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:EDI-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Klaus-Dieter Naujok Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:57 PM To: EDI-L@yahoogroups.com <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [EDI-L] Standards price change? On Jun 30, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Mike Rawlins <m...@rawlinsecconsulting.com <mailto:mcr2%40rawlinsecconsulting.com> > wrote: > As far as I know most commercial translator vendors don't buy the equivalent of the standards on CD. They buy the "table data", which is priced at $15,000 for members and $7,500 for non-members. The 20% annual fee for those products comes to $3,000 and $1,500 respectively. Mike, thanks again. This would bring my "example" cost for non-members to $42,000 ($15,000 + (9 x $3,000)) and $21,000 for members. Wow! Now we are talking! Klaus ------------------------------------ ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix.Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ... 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