Jill Binker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu: >Even assuming the test yields a good measure of how well the students know >the material (which should be investigated, rather than assumed), it isn't >telling you whether students have learned more from the class itself, >unless you assume all students started from the same place.
Good point! I was unconsciously making that very assumption, and I thank you for reminding me that it _is_ an assumption. I had already decided to lead off with an assessment test the first day of class next time, for the students' benefit. (If they should be in a more or less advanced class, the sooner they know it the better for them.) But as you point out, that will benefit me too. The other instructor has developed a pre-assessment test over the past couple of years, and has offered to let me use it too, so we'll be able to establish comparable baselines. >As I gather is common in this field, the problem isn't statistics per se, >but framing questions that can be answered by the kind of data you can get. Yes, I agree. It's easy to crank the numbers; the hard part is deciding what hypothesis to test, which test to apply, and how to interpret the results. That's where I'm particularly grateful for everyone's feedback. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA http://oakroadsystems.com My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct reply address is more important to me than time spent deleting spam. ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================