Jill Binker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in sci.stat.edu:
>Even assuming the test yields a good measure of how well the students know
>the material (which should be investigated, rather than assumed),  it isn't
>telling you whether students have learned more from the class itself,
>unless you assume all students started from the same place.

Good point! I was unconsciously making that very assumption, and I 
thank you for reminding me that it _is_ an assumption. 

I had already decided to lead off with an assessment test the first 
day of class next time, for the students' benefit. (If they should 
be in a more or less advanced class, the sooner they know it the 
better for them.) But as you point out, that will benefit me too. 
The other instructor has developed a pre-assessment test over the 
past couple of years, and has offered to let me use it too, so we'll 
be able to establish comparable baselines.

>As I gather is common in this field, the problem isn't statistics per se,
>but framing questions that can be answered by the kind of data you can get.

Yes, I agree. It's easy to crank the numbers; the hard part is 
deciding what hypothesis to test, which test to apply, and how to 
interpret the results. That's where I'm particularly grateful for 
everyone's feedback.

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                                          http://oakroadsystems.com
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