Herman Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Teaching people to use something without any understanding > can only be ritual; this is what most uses of statistics > are these days.
> If one does not use numbers, it is opinion. I hope that the > pediatricians you have in your classes do not misuse data in > the manner you seem to be suggesting. If one *does* use numbers it still is "opinion". Anchoring numbers and mathematical models to claims about the way in which the world behaves (as opposed to claims about the way in which *numbers* behave) cannot but involve strong and deep assertions; which themselves *cannot* be theorems of mathematics. The specific nature of the tasks to which we put "numbers" to work reflects corresponding "opinions" we have about the relevance of specific mathematical models, and the underlying assumptions corresonding to each, in those specific instances. The use of Mathematics does not vanquish proto-mathematical hypotheses from the empirical questions upon which it is brought to bear. ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================