At 08:16 PM 2/11/2003, Herman Rubin wrote:
for the life of me, i am having a problem understanding your logic ... who says a student does NOT learn twice as much by working that much harder to get an A ... than say a B?It should not be accomplishment, but knowledge and the ability to use it, which counts. It is a waste of time and other resources for a student to work very hard and get an A, rather than learning twice as much and getting B's at it.
let's just look at your statement ...
" ... It is a waste of time
and other resources for a student to work very hard and
get an A, .... "
pray tell, why?
sure, in theory but, the pragmatics of education ... essentially forbids it ... just can't be done ...The idea that students should be taking the same material at a given age, or even at a given stage of development, needs to be completely removed from being considered as "educational". They should be taking material individualized for them.
sounds so easy but ... is it? you get a batch of students first day in your course ... now, what do you do with them? you could give some pretest ... and those who are very high ... kick them out ... those who are very low ... do the same ... but, YOU are not the only one running the system ... the student needs 3 credits ... are you going to be able to self tailor where this student goes if you bounce them from the class? in addition, who says the instructor has THE right ... to make a decision about if a student stays or goes ... ? sure, if they turn into a disciplinary case ... especially at the college level ... kick em out but ... short of that ... who says they don't have a right to be in your class?If a course is too easy, move the student to another one, or allow early completion. If it is too difficult, slow it down, or if that does not work, drop it.
in the public schools, schedules are very tight and the degrees of freedom are very limited
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