Hi Bharat,

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Bharath Ravi Kumar wrote On 09/20/05 04:32,:
> Hi Patrick,
>           As i mentioned in my previoius replay (which is yet to appear
> on the OS mailing list since I don't have all the required mailing-list
> permissions), I too agree that the community should be the one to
> support  OS. I'd be glad if we're indeed thinking on those lines
> already. I'd again like to draw attention to regions where a high volume
> of students graduate in Computer Science every year. It is very likely
> that the market/economy in these regions is only just maturing to be
> able to spend on IT infrastructure (and bandwidth is also an issue in
> such countried). Put these factors together and you'll see why all these
> people should come out of college armed with knowledge in OS (which,
> hopefully, will have enough penetration soon in these regions). The 2
> factors - market demand & knowledge - obviously have a cyclic dependency
> on each other. So, fuelling one factor might provide an im petus to the
> other. Which is why one cannot over emphasize the importance of
> introducing OS in educational circles in these regions. I hope we're
> already doing something about it.
>  
> Thanks & Regards,
> Bharath
> 
> */Patrick Finch <Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM>/* wrote:
> 
>     Tim, Bharath,
> 
>     I think and hope that we're actually already thinking along those
>     lines:
>     I won't go into all the details of the education engagement plan, but
>     getting OpenSolaris media widely available, with some training
>     materials, is top priority. Even though the source can be downloaded
>     for free, network bandwidth isn't the same all around the world, so we
>     felt that this will be quite an enabler.
> 
>     Tim's point on support is a good one too: OpenSolaris is supported by
>     the community. There are a number of academic programmes which sees Sun
>     donating equipment to institutions, but donating support contracts
>     (beyond warranty) is virgin territory as far as I'm aware.
> 
>     This is all great food for thought -thanks- and if you would like to
>     discuss the details of our planning, please let me know.
> 
>     regards
> 
>     Patrick
> 
> 
> 
>     Tim Foster wrote:
> 
>     >Hey Bharath
>     >
>     >On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 13:21, Bharath Ravi Kumar wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >>Hi,
>     >> I just wanted to mention a new phenomenon in tech marketing that
>     >>i came across in India: A number of companies have resorted to giving
>     >>away software (with support) to premier institutions in the country
>     >>absolutely free.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >Yep, that makes perfect sense : of course, OpenSolaris is already
>     >absolutely free - but yes, there should be some contact between the
>     >OpenSolaris community and universities everywhere. Thankfully, there
>     >already is !
>     >
>     >There are guys who I believe are looking at this stuff at
>     >http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/
>     >I've Cc:d that list on this email (sorry for the cross-post)
>     >
>     >I'd have loved it if my university had OpenSolari s instead of Linux on
>     >the curriculum for a whole load of reasons, but I don't want to risk a
>     >flamewar, so I'll stop there!
>     >
>     >Perhaps the -edu folks have ideas that can help implement your
>     excellent
>     >suggestion ?
>     >
>     >The question of support is one I don't know how to answer (I'm kinda
>     >busy as is, and probably couldn't cope with taking it on myself ;-) At
>     >the very least though, getting OpenSolaris into university curriculums
>     >can be done *now* and perhaps support could be provided through general
>     >interaction with the community ? Not everything has to be donated
>     from a
>     >corporate entity...
>     >
>     >Thanks for the suggestion though - I think it's a good one.
>     >
>     > cheers,
>     > tim
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >> In addition, they also take time to impart training (through
>     >>developers located in the vicinity of the institutions) in the
>     >>relevant concepts involved . For instance, a University that governs
>     >>colleges around Bangalore mandates that the Linux environment be used
>     >>to carry out minor projects in related to Operating Systems in general
>     >>& Unix in particular. Linux is advocated primarily because it's free.
>     >>Would it not be a good idea to publicize OS and impress upon the Univs
>     >>the importance of OS to the area of Operating Systems? So, Operating
>     >>Systems courses could involve Solaris as a case study & use OS (which
>     >>is free) in their projects. That'd help get word around even better, i
>     >>thought (and you have students with the knowledge of Solaris
>     >>graduating out). Like I mentioned earlier, this is just an observation
>     >>I made. Comments welcome.
>     >>Regards,
>     >>Bharath
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