I think many of us do agree with Bharath's 2 factors and as you say Patrick this is in the plan ... from a community POV wouldn't it be beneficial to have this plan more in the open .... ?
adding a different point too .... it is interesting to read about what IBM is doing right now ..... http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26258 > United States is losing its competitive edge. It will financially > back employees who want to leave the company to become math and > science teachers. > > More than 100 IBM employees will be eligible for the programme in its > trial phase. is it just pure help to the society or is it a cunning marketing plan from IBM marketing for the long haul ;) reg//ulf Patrick Finch wrote: > Bharath, > > Yes, we have definitely taken this into account in our priorities - > and you will see more activities from us in this area. thanks, > > Patrick > > > Bharath Ravi Kumar wrote: > >> Hi Patrick, As i mentioned in my previoius replay (which is yet to >> appear on the OS mailing list since I don't have all the required >> mailing-list permissions), I too agree that the community should be >> the one to support OS. I'd be glad if we're indeed thinking on >> those lines already. I'd again like to draw attention to regions >> where a high volume of students graduate in Computer Science every >> year. It is very likely that the market/economy in these regions is >> only just maturing to be able to spend on IT infrastructure (and >> bandwidth is also an issue in such countried). Put these factors >> together and you'll see why all these people should come out of >> college armed with knowledge in OS (which, hopefully, will have >> enough penetration soon in these regions). The 2 factors - market >> demand & knowledge - obviously have a cyclic dependency on each >> other. So, fuelling one factor might provide an im petus to the >> other. Which is why one cannot over emphasize the importance of >> introducing OS in educational circles in these regions. I hope >> we're already doing something about it. >> >> Thanks & Regards, Bharath >> >> */Patrick Finch <Patrick.Finch at Sun.COM>/* wrote: >> >> Tim, Bharath, >> >> I think and hope that we're actually already thinking along those >> lines: I won't go into all the details of the education engagement >> plan, but getting OpenSolaris media widely available, with some >> training materials, is top priority. Even though the source can be >> downloaded for free, network bandwidth isn't the same all around >> the world, so we felt that this will be quite an enabler. >> >> Tim's point on support is a good one too: OpenSolaris is supported >> by the community. There are a number of academic programmes which >> sees Sun donating equipment to institutions, but donating support >> contracts (beyond warranty) is virgin territory as far as I'm >> aware. >> >> This is all great food for thought -thanks- and if you would like >> to discuss the details of our planning, please let me know. >> >> regards >> >> Patrick >> >> >> >> Tim Foster wrote: >> >>> Hey Bharath >>> >>> On Mon, 2005-09-19 at 13:21, Bharath Ravi Kumar wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi, I just wanted to mention a new phenomenon in tech marketing >>>> that i came across in India: A number of companies have >>>> resorted to >> giving >>>> away software (with support) to premier institutions in the >>>> country absolutely free. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Yep, that makes perfect sense : of course, OpenSolaris is already >>> absolutely free - but yes, there should be some contact between >>> the OpenSolaris community and universities everywhere. >>> Thankfully, there already is ! >>> >>> There are guys who I believe are looking at this stuff at >>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/edu/ I've Cc:d that list on >>> this email (sorry for the cross-post) >>> >>> I'd have loved it if my university had OpenSolari s instead of >> Linux on >>> the curriculum for a whole load of reasons, but I don't want to >> risk a >>> flamewar, so I'll stop there! >>> >>> Perhaps the -edu folks have ideas that can help implement your >> excellent >>> suggestion ? >>> >>> The question of support is one I don't know how to answer (I'm >>> kinda busy as is, and probably couldn't cope with taking it on >>> myself >> ;-) At >>> the very least though, getting OpenSolaris into university >> curriculums >>> can be done *now* and perhaps support could be provided through >> general >>> interaction with the community ? Not everything has to be donated >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> from a >>> corporate entity... >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestion though - I think it's a good one. >>> >>> cheers, tim >>> >>> >>> >>>> In addition, they also take time to impart training (through >>>> developers located in the vicinity of the institutions) in the >>>> relevant concepts involved . For instance, a University that >> governs >>>> colleges around Bangalore mandates that the Linux environment >>>> be >> used >>>> to carry out minor projects in related to Operating Systems in >> general >>>> & Unix in particular. Linux is advocated primarily because it's >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> free. >>>> Would it not be a good idea to publicize OS and impress upon >>>> the >> Univs >>>> the importance of OS to the area of Operating Systems? So, >> Operating >>>> Systems courses could involve Solaris as a case study & use OS >> (which >>>> is free) in their projects. That'd help get word around even >> better, i >>>> thought (and you have students with the knowledge of Solaris >>>> graduating out). Like I mentioned earlier, this is just an >> observation >>>> I made. Comments welcome. Regards, Bharath This message posted >>>> from opensolaris.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> opensolaris-mktg mailing list >>>> >>>> >>> opensolaris-mktg at opensolaris.org >>> >>> >> >> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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