On 3/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dethe Elza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > python -c "import urllib; urllib.main()" \ > > http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py \ > > | python - -U setuptools > > My point exactly - for the audience that I am focusing on and that with which > many > on edu-sig are concerned. > > > > > > My point about IDLE not running setup.py is and was exactly to > > this issue. I still wish > > > I could get some substantive reaction, I think it important. > > > > I missed the point about IDLE not running setup.py, but I can guess > > that running setup.py inside another process could confuse it when it > > tries to do dependency analysis to see which files to include. > > It's much more fundamental than that. > > How does one run any script from IDLE that requires a parameter? > > The fact that there isn't a straightforward, obvious GUI based way to do so > is the > issue. A setup.py script requires a parameter - "install". > > We are back to the command line, and new territory for many, before we have > had the oppurtunity to influence them in the direction that ideally, it > should not be. > > One might accept that the absence of a "run with parameter" menu item is a > vote > for minimalism. I recently voted for minimalism myself, someplace ;). > > To me, the concern of getting folks access to libraries and applications in a > manner > not so far outside their normal experience overrides any appreciation of > IDLE's > minimalism in this respect > > No other battery included is up to the job, and I suspect that this is a > small amendment to > the IDLE codebase. > > And directing them to IDLE to do an install is a natural way of introducing > IDLE, and the > concept of a programmers' editor, period. >
(inspired by some other posts about silent agreements on this list and wanting to break this tradition ;-) Art: You've made some excellent points! +1 André > Art > _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
