On 3/3/06, Gregor Lingl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > There are really many interesting questions to discuss and that is not > possible in a fruitful athmosphere on a list where two people who do > more than 50% of the overall postings (in terms of number not to speak > of volume, as it was in the last six month) dislike it.
When only two people contribute to a thread (or many), it is an indication that 1. other people are not interested, or 2. other people feel they have nothing significant to contribute. [I have been in both camps, at various times.] When a new thread comes up that generates interest from *many* other people than the two people mentioned above, it is a sign that it *should* be discussed on the list. (btw, I assume you mean Art and Kirby; personally I have come to appreciate Art's opposite point of view [from mine] on various topics - it causes me to think twice. As for Kirby... Kirby is Kirby; Laura Creighton gave us a great [unintentional] quote about him in a message not so long ago ;-) >Moreover it > would also be not interesting enough for the majority of the > participants of Edu-Sig. So it would suffice to report progress and > results from time to time here. > I disagree. Strongly. It belongs here! (in my opinion) To me, the thread about turtle.py is leading to my ideal kind of topic for edu-sig. Here's how I would like to see this thread evolve: Actual examples (starting from simple ones) of how turtle.py is currently used to introduce computer programming. Fact-based assessment of weaknesses of the current turtle.py in teaching Python or computer programming in general. There already has been some hints of that :-) This tread is great: - It talks about using Python in an educational setting - turtle.py can be used to introduce "computer programming 4 everybody" ;-) - It talks about improving a Python tool well known. I would love to see the same kind of discussion by people that have tried PyGeo to do this. Of course I would love, for a slightly different reason, to hear of people's opinion of RUR-PLE, its strengths and weaknesses. André _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig