I had the good fortune to work at HP with someone whom you could
call the inventor of web services, Rajiv Gupta (see link) so I have
been well schooled on this argument.
(http://www.hpl.hp.com/news/2001/apr-jun/3gupta.html)

The primary architecture of web services (as in .Net) is an
*internet* model. Almost anything that is done is an internet call, this
is the point - you discover services over the internet and invoke them.
The traditional J2EE architecture is that of an *intranet* model, there may
be a browser interface but most calls and transactions are occuring via
intranet calls. Of course you can lump Java web services into J2EE
but these benchmarks never do that.

The bottom line to me is that these .Net vs. J2EE comparisons are
useless - it's apples and oranges. I am obviously a big fan of web
services but I really don't see much "enterprise" yet in .Net. It's
typical MS, great tools, good client development but weak in the middle &
backend. I also think that resolution of 2-phase commit and security will be
very difficult in web services - HP had a way but it was very complex and
didn't scale. I think J2EE cores with web service interfaces make the most
sense which is the way we are going in the JCP.

Just my .02,
John Harby



From: Juan Pablo Lorandi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Huge row about J2EE vs .NET
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:08:47 -0000

The original article:
 <http://www.middleware-company.com/j2eedotnetbench/>
http://www.middleware-company.com/j2eedotnetbench/

The analisys on the benchmark by Rickard Oberg.
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Comments?

Juan Pablo Lorandi
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