Tim:
Sounds like a good idea to put them in that order and then drop the F and 
number them 1through 32. Sometimes simple is better!

Steve
N4LQ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Tucker" <ae...@worldwidedx.com>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:43 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Simple NR/NB feature suggestion


> I've followed the various discussions on how well the NR/NB works as
> compared to other rigs.  I've used NR functionality in many different 
> rigs,
> as well as just about every after market solution.  In my area, the QRM
> makes NR/NB absolutely a necessity.
>
> Part of makes the NR & NB seem "easier" to use in other rigs (like Icoms) 
> is
> that the setting is continually variable from least to most.  The operator
> can tell when he's gotten too aggressive with it to suit his listening 
> style
> and can easily back it down.  As we all know, the K3 allows you to cycle
> through the various levels within an group setting and then you go through
> that cycle again with the next group setting (I think I said that 
> correctly
> ;) )
>
> Here's my feature suggestion - For me, it seems that I am often trying to
> compare the amount of NR/NB applied between the major groupings.  For
> example, when I operate SSB (which is most of the time), I may already 
> know
> that I want just a little NR based on what I hear, but I want to hear the
> difference between 5-1, 6-1,7-1, and 8-1.  But I can't do that without
> cycling through them all.  Also, because I have to go from 5-1 to 5-2, 
> 5-3,
> etc. before I get to 6-1, my ears have lost the reference point, which was
> 5-1.  Same thing applies with NB settings.  If we could have a menu button
> while in DSP adjustment that would rearrange the settings so they cycled
> through the groups at the same level setting first, I think it would be 
> very
> powerful and very awesome!  For the NR, you would need to preserve the
> groupings that are intended for CW/digital & voice.  As I understand it,
> settings 1-1 through 4-4 are intended for CW/digital and 5-1 through 8-4 
> are
> intended for phone?  Assuming my previous statement is correct, the new NR
> option, when activated would cycle like this:
> 1-1, 2-1, 3-1, 4-1, 1-2, 2-2, 3-2. 4-2, (etc), 5-1, 6-1, 7-1, 8-1, 5-2, 
> 6-2,
> 7-2, 8-2, (etc.).
>
> The NB could have the same feature.  It seems like it would be a fairly
> simple firmware feature addition without doing major changes to the actual
> NR/NB algorithms and also bridge the differences between an Icom like
> implementation and the Elecraft implementation.  You should also be able 
> to
> switch it easily back and forth between the two options.  Does anybody 
> else
> like this concept?
>
> Tim
> AE6LX
> www.worldwidedx.com
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