Agreed Gary,
Lew sure does put the case forward rather eloquently doesn't he?
If Elecraft made a rig like Lew described, I would purchase one in a heartbeat.
Although I love my K3 and my soon to arrive KPA500, my first love in Amateur 
Radio 
was and remains VHF/UHF operation. (6m and up)

73 de
Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Elecraft K3 # 4257 + K144XV + KPA500 + PR6 = A multi-band contesters wet dream!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Gregory" <garyvk...@gmail.com>
To: "Lew Phelps K6LMP" <k6...@me.com>
Cc: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4


> Lew,
>
> Although I am HF only, you put a very strong case for a K4 as you describe.
> I wonder now if the minds at elecraft are working on a similar
> scheme....Hmmmmmm
>
> Gary
>
> On 27 July 2011 10:05, Lew Phelps K6LMP <k6...@me.com> wrote:
>
>> There once was sold an excellent rig (for its day) sold by Yaesu called the
>> FT-736r. It was designed and marketed primarily for satellite work, but
>> became very popular among VHF-UHF contesters.  In fact, I know of quite  few
>> who still use it, but they are looking for alternatives, since the '736 is
>> becoming unreliable with age.
>>
>> The FT-736r had internal slot for four band-specific modules
>> (transverters); the owner could mix and match among 6 meter, 2 meter, 220,
>> 440, and 1296 mhz SSB. The modules were rated for 25 watts output through
>> 220 mHz and 20 watts on 440 and above. Its receiver was not very impressive
>> compared with what you can get with a K3 and transverters, but those who own
>> it love it.
>>
>> Given the physical size and relatively high running temp of existing
>> Elecraft transverters, my guess is that they'd have to be redesigned for
>> slightly less power output to fit within the K3 case on a K3-based
>> motherboard. But 16 watts out from a transverter module into an amplifier
>> with 15 db gain would yield 500 watts out, and that's plenty for the uses
>> such a rig would be put to.   Marry a "K4" to a purpose-built VHF/UHF
>> amplifier (akin to the KPA-500) and you would have a killer rig for VHF-UHF
>> contesting.
>>
>> As for price, take a look at the eHam reviews of the FT-736r. The basic
>> unit sells today for more than $500, even though decades old, and the
>> "scarce" 222 mhz and 1296 mHz modules sometimes fetch $1,000 on eBay. People
>> who are into satellite work and VHF/UHF contesting would fight for a place
>> in line to buy such a rig, and for many it would be a bargain compared with
>> trying to set up a complete FT-736r. If space allowed, five bands would be
>> even better, but since most VHF/UHF contesters use a separate rig for 6
>> meters anyway, you could get by with four, covering 2m, 1.25 m, 70 cm, and
>> 23 cm bands. You can easily spend $3k or $4k to put together a comparably
>> equipped FT-736, which  suggests that the market would accept a price of up
>> to $5k for a new and very high-quality rig such as the hypothetical K4.
>>
>> And it absolutely would not pirate sales from the K3, although it would put
>> a dent in sales of transverters. Please don't think that's a reason for not
>> producing such a radio.  If Elecraft followed that philosophy we'd not have
>> the K3 or KX3.
>>
>>
>> I would sell my car and walk 25 miles to work to get a "K4".
>>
>> Lew K6LMP
>>
>>
>> > On 26 Jul 2011, at 14:08, Daniel Brown wrote:
>> >
>> >> A purpose built VHF/UHF/uWave and Satellite focused rig would be great
>> >> - small section of the market, likely, but would be great for those of
>> >> us who are interested there.
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> N8YSZ.
>>
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