Don't forget that MFJ now makes a balanced tuner. Three versions - 
974B, 974HB, 976. They do have what is needed - a balun at the input 
followed by a fully balanced tuner. Or at least they appear to be 
fully balanced.


73 de dave
ab9ca/4



On 12/8/11 8:53 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> I read the W8JI comments presented in that link on the Elecraft website.
> I was familiar with Tom's work and comments from emailing with him on
> this particular subject many years ago.
>
> The one thing that struck me in W8JI's paper is at the end and embodied
> in Tom's comment that --
>
> "The irony is, moving the balun to the input mostly works only when the
> balun is not needed!"
>
> For those who want a really high efficiency balanced tuner, go to ARRL
> publications back several years to find a link coupled tuner.  With
> switching between series and parallel tuning, it can handle impedances
> from very low to very high.  The input is DC isolated from the output,
> and the input can be either unbalanced or balanced.  The output can be
> either balanced or unbalanced depending on where you connect the output
> tuned circuit.  The venerable Johnson Matchbox is an example of a link
> coupled tuner.  The taps onto the output tank circuit were created by
> the differential capacitor in the output tank circuit - that allowed it
> to be boxed up into a bandswitchable box without need for connecting the
> antenna feeders to taps on the tuner coil.  That works quite well , but
> it restricts the range of matching impedances to significantly less than
> would be obtained by the basic tuner with taps on the inductor.  Yes, I
> do use these tuners, and they are configured for single band use at the
> antenna - 3 coax feeds for HF and 3 for VHF/UHF give me access to all my
> antennas   The nearest antenna is 200 feet of coax away from the
> hamshack, and that is why I use tower mounted preamps for VHF/UHF.
>
> I will never give up my Matchbox until it is pried from my cold dead
> hands - I use mine mostly as a test instrument - as bandpass filter as
> well as an impedance transformation device.  After experimentation asnd
> development, the permanent tuners are designed and installed in the
> antenna field - I have tuned coax fed antennas for each band from 160
> meters through the 432 MHz bands.  I use the Matchbox tuner only for
> experimental antennas until I can develop a permanent and dedicated
> tuner for any one antenna.
>
> OK, those are the advantages - the drawbacks are that that the link
> coupled tuner arrangement does not lend itself well to bandswitching,
> but i would suggest it be the tuner of choice for situations where the
> antenna is used for only a single band - put the tuner on the antenna
> feedline and tune it to resonance (and minimum SWR) once and be done
> with the settings.
>
> 73,
>
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/8/2011 6:28 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>> Hi Ignacy,
>>
>> This is a common misconception. (One which I held until recently. :-) It
>> turns out there is no advantage to placing the balun at the input of the
>> L-Network tuner. Since one end of the balun is grounded by the input to
>> the tuner, it is still presented with the same stresses under high SWR
>> situations. Baluns at the input and output both drive balanced loads
>> equally well.
>>
>> We've now put together a web page describing the impact of placing the
>> balun at the input or at the output of a L-Network tuner. See:
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/input_versus_output_balun.htm
>>
>>
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