I have a small magnetic loop that's used strictly for receiving. It's a
Pixel loop with a preamp (from the same company) and I was astounded at how
well it works. I located it about 10 feet up on a rotor, about 50 feet away
from the house. It is incredibly broadbanded. While it doesn't quite hear
what my K3 hears, it hears surprisingly well across a pretty wide spectrum.
I use it mostly for broadcast band DXing, but it also does a pretty good
job of keeping track of the county hunter CW net frequencies (40M, 30M and
20M).

The loop is only about 3-feet in diameter - sells for around $400, which
included the preamp. The preamp has a switching mechanism I connected to
the PTT off our rigs (I share the shack with my wife, who is N4BU).
Anything in the shack that trips the ARB-704 relay shuts off the preamp so
it doesn't get fried.

Art - N4PJ



On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:10 AM, David Cutter <d.cut...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> I agree about the statement re height above ground which needed
> qualifiying a little particularly as they then made measurements somewhat
> less than that.  The main thrust is about losses and the more removed from
> ground and nearby objects the less the loss due to the very high intensity
> of the electric field.  Not sure if they specified a maximum power handling
> and I didn't see anything about inter-plate insulation so it was just dry
> air - (ie all the water is frozen on the ground).  That probably also means
> the ground was not as conductive and lossy as it might be in the summer
> when the electrolytes are free to move (my guesswork).  Wouldn't work too
> well in our wet UK climate!  Great piece of analysis and engineering,
> deceptively simple.
>
> David
> G3UNA
>
> On 10/05/2012 11:11, Arthur Burke wrote:
>
> I bookmarked the site - thank you. However, I didn't get very far the
> first time when I saw the comment "....must be 1/2 wavelength above the
> ground..."
>
> Still would like to go back and review the entire article.
>
> Brings back a humorous dialog from years ago. One ham expressed the desire
> to build a "....good, but short, 40 meter beam..." It was suggested he
> shorten the beam until it was ultimately a 50-ohm resistor of sufficient
> girth to accept reasonable power levels. Chuckles followed.
>
> Then, someone who apparently didn't pick up on the tongue-in-cheek,
> frowned and noted that the 50-ohm resistor would work even better if it was
> at least a couple wavelengths in the air.
>
> Art - N4PJ
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:30 AM, David Cutter <d.cut...@ntlworld.com>wrote:
>
>> It will be quiet on receive and quiet on transmit, however much power
>> you put into it, until it melts, that is.  I'd love to know where he
>> gets his efficiency figures - perhaps you can ask him.  Putting steel
>> washers at each aluminium joint turned me off completely along with the
>> dinky receiving capacitor.
>>
>> I'm quite taken by the Midnight Loop from N2APB and N2CX, mainly because
>> I built something similar 20 years ago, only a lot bigger!  See
>>
>>
>> http://www.midnightdesignsolutions.com/MidnightLoop/Midnight%20Loop%20%28Mar%2011a%29.pdf
>>
>> David
>> G3UNA
>>
>>
>> On 10/05/2012 07:55, Stephen Prior wrote:
>> > Hi Fred
>> >
>> > I have been very tempted by the Alex-loop, but in the meantime have just
>> > bought one of G4TPH's loops which I shall put through its paces when the
>> > weather improves!  I should imagine that the insensitivity to electric
>> > fields in the near field would be an advantage in electrically noisy
>> > environments. Even a campsite can be very noisy with the inverters from
>> RVs
>> > and the like spewing out rf everywhere.
>> >
>> > I'm spoilt for choice of antennas to play with once the KX3 arrives!
>> >
>> > 73 Stephen G4SJP
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, 9 May 2012, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> >
>> >> I haven't been following this thread closely but has anyone mentioned a
>> >> small magnetic loop like the Alex-Loop?  I've got a good SOTA friend
>> who
>> >> uses one and loves it.
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >>
>> >> Fred K6DGW
>> >> - Northern California Contest Club
>> >> - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
>> >> - www.cqp.org
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