Tim,

You're confusing the 0202 and the 0204.  There are definitely Win7 
drivers for the 0204 - I have them.  They're included with the card when 
you buy it.  I'm looking at them right now in my hand.  They are in the 
envelope labeled "Installation Kit."

73,
Joel - W4JBB

On 8/30/2012 8:14 PM, KQ8M wrote:
> I'm sorry, Larry, but I have to totally disagree with you about the 0204. 
> Yes, it works well on an XP machine but why have they only
> released beta drivers for it when it was first manufactured but have failed 
> to build any newer drivers? Why is it you cannot
> download ANY drivers for this from their own website? I will search tomorrow 
> but I will find the posts in Creative's own forums from
> people that used it in real hard core audio apps. The box snaps, crackles and 
> pops and drops out. I could not even get it to work
> for longer than an hour on 96kHz. Yes, that is a HUGE complaint among the 
> audiophiles.
>
> I do agree on the 2496. It is a very good stable card. I have found the ASUS 
> cards to work pretty well also. The Xonar Essence and
> the Xonar DG have been running here very well for 6 months. I still have not 
> been about to get the 1212m PCIe to work but have not
> spent a lot of time on it.
>
> It seems to me none of the creative cards work very well. They always have 
> some sort of mirror image.
>
> I am judging these cards using CWSkimmer. With that application you cannot 
> have any mirror image or it spots those mirror images
> erroneously. Most people can get away with mirror images that are down from 
> the main signal as they would never know they are there.
>
>
> 73,
> Tim Herrick, KQ8M
> Charter Member North Coast Contesters
> k...@kq8m.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N8LP
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:52 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
>
> I'm not sure what problems you're having, but the 0202 and 0204 in my tests
> perform better than any of adozen cards I have tested except the E-MU 1212m.
> The 0204 has the edge over the 0202 in terms of flexibility when it comes to
> win7/64. If you don't need 192kHz, I highly recommend the M-Audio Audiophile
> 2496 PCI card at $75. The ASUS cards are good at 96kHz, but fall apart at
> 192kHz. The Delta 44 was once the best card out there, and it's still
> decent, but I haven't used one in several years, whereas I have the others
> all still installed on my shack PC.
>
> 73,
> Larry N8LP
>
>
>
>
> KQ8M wrote
>> I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win
>> 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the
>> big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth
>> dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's
>> website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows
>> platform!
>>
>>   
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Tim Herrick, KQ8M
>>
>> Charter Member North Coast Contesters
>>
>> kq8m@
>>
>>   
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>>   
>>
>> From: Jim Rhodes [mailto:jimk0xu@]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:21 PM
>> To: KQ8M
>> Cc: Matthew Zilmer; Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
>>
>>   
>>
>> That is really not true. The 0204 is Win7 compatible out of the box (or at
>> least claims to be, I don't own one). The 0202 has beta
>> drivers for Win7 that have been working just fine for me on Win7 Ultimate
>> 64 bit for over a year now and I just picked up another
>> for portable operation and loaded the drivers on a netbook running Win7
>> Starter 32 bit. So yes, the drivers won't automagically
>> load, but it took me about 5 minutes to find, download the drivers (and
>> that includes working around a server error on Creative's
>> server) and install them.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:33 AM, KQ8M <kq8m@> wrote:
>>
>> Those two don't work very well with Win 7 though.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tim Herrick, KQ8M
>> Charter Member North Coast Contesters
>> kq8m@
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of
>> Matthew Zilmer
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:19 PM
>> To: Bill Conkling; Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
>>
>> The Creative Labs EMU-0202 and -0204 seem to have a following too.
>>
>> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
>> In status quo voluntas non sufficit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces@.qth [mailto:elecraft-bounces@.qth] On Behalf Of
>> Bill Conkling
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:18 AM
>> To: Ken Roberson; elecraft@.qth
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
>>
>> There well may be others that work well, but the Delta 44 has a long track
>> record as one of the best and lots of info available and
>> happy users.
>>
>> ....bill nr4c
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Ken Roberson <kwroberson@>
>> To: elecraft@.qth
>> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 15:22:18 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello ALL,
>>
>>
>>
>> Everyone seems to be using the Delta 44 sound card for
>>
>> SDR receivers, is there something supper about the Delta 44?
>>
>> I noticed there are other 24 bit sound cards,
>>
>> Will any of those cards work?
>>
>> I don't need a USB sound card, PCI slot would be fine.
>> OFF line would be fine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken K5DNL
>>
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