I like Walter's paper and risk management approach and also with the philosophy of needing 2 way communication to manage logistics. Personally, IMHO, the Satelite phone rental is probably the most effective way. I personally don't travel more than 10 miles from the trail head so I have gotten by with HT/GPS/APRS and a small HF rig. I also carry a standalone GPS for trail maneuvering. A coiled up twin lead J-pole is quite effective and can be configured for 2m or 11 meters. When I was on Pisgah Mt in NC, I had no problem hitting the repeater on Caesars Head in SC, which gave me an effective range of 100 mile radius with that J pole strung up on a tree and the TX on the HT at 5w. Preparation and redundancy is key - even backups for backups. "He who does not have a backup plan better be really lucky". Waiting patiently for the Elecraft 2m module..... Ariel NY4G
> From: wun...@wunderwood.org > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:41:59 -0700 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Amp > > There are a lot of emergency situations that benefit from two-way > communication. PLBs are great for sinking ships, but not so good for > distinguishing between a wildfire and a medical emergency. > > I've dealt with a few emergencies in the backcountry. On one trip, we had > both a wildfire and two medical situations. You can draw your own conclusions > about heading into the backcountry with me. :-) > > Hey, I wrote a long blog post about that: > http://wunderwood.org/most_casual_observer/2011/10/emergency_communication_in_the.html > > wunder > K6WRU > > On Jun 30, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Ariel Jacala wrote: > > > Well, in that framework - I would have to agree that the PLB is better ..... > > How do I get one .... :-) > > Ariel NY4G > > > >> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:24:45 -0700 > >> From: k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com > >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Amp > >> > >> Yes, but..... > >> > >> The original poster is going to be 200 miles from town. He may or may > >> not be in VHF range of something when he needs help. I'm pretty sure > >> he's out of range or he'd just get a couple of handhelds and call it done. > >> > >> The Personal Locator Beacon frequency is monitored by two sets of > >> satellites -- a constellation of low-earth-orbit satellites that can > >> determine location, and a few geostationary satellites that see a wide > >> area of the planet, looking straight down at the surface of the earth. > >> The latter can read the GPS on the PLB. > >> > >> The signal goes straight to search and rescue folks, and the beacons are > >> registered so they know exactly who they're going to be looking for. > >> > >> Which would you prefer: push a button and it's done, or calling on > >> several bands and hoping one is open? > >> > >> Again, I love amateur radio, and I would consider it part of my > >> emergency toolkit, but I'd trigger my PLB first in a real emergency. > >> > >> -- Lynn > >> > >> On 6/30/2013 5:09 PM, Ariel Jacala wrote: > >>> Some HT's have GPS and with APRS one can send messages. I have used it > >>> on hikes so my wife can track me on the internet as I hike. The HT sends > >>> a beacon signal out and the movement can be tracked through APRS.fi Any > >>> Ham can get an APRS account. I have even used APRS on my iPhone for > >>> the same tracking capability. Remote from civilization though you would > >>> need an HT with APRS like the VX8R by Yaesu or a TinyTrack tracker. With > >>> the HT however, you can call for help and the reach can be substantial > >>> depending on elevation or having a nearby repeater. Having worked 45 > >>> states on Field Day just using a KX3 and a G0GSF dipole, I have no qualms > >>> with getting out and reaching people with a KX3 on HF. When the 2m > >>> module gets out - I have a complete package for all modes of remote > >>> operation. > >>> Ariel NY4G > >>> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- > Walter Underwood > wun...@wunderwood.org > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html