I like Walter's paper and risk management approach and also with the philosophy 
of needing 2 way communication to manage logistics.  Personally, IMHO, the 
Satelite phone rental is probably the most effective way.  I personally don't 
travel more than 10 miles from the trail head so I have gotten by with 
HT/GPS/APRS and a small HF rig.   I also carry a standalone GPS for trail 
maneuvering.  A coiled up twin lead J-pole is quite effective and can be 
configured for 2m or 11 meters.  When I was on Pisgah Mt in NC, I had no 
problem hitting the repeater on Caesars Head in SC, which gave me an effective 
range of 100 mile radius with that J pole strung up on a tree and the TX on the 
HT at 5w.   Preparation and redundancy is key - even backups for backups.  "He 
who does not have a backup plan better be really lucky".  Waiting patiently for 
the Elecraft 2m module.....
Ariel NY4G

> From: wun...@wunderwood.org
> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:41:59 -0700
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Amp
> 
> There are a lot of emergency situations that benefit from two-way 
> communication. PLBs are great for sinking ships, but not so good for 
> distinguishing between a wildfire and a medical emergency.
> 
> I've dealt with a few emergencies in the backcountry. On one trip, we had 
> both a wildfire and two medical situations. You can draw your own conclusions 
> about heading into the backcountry with me. :-)
> 
> Hey, I wrote a long blog post about that: 
> http://wunderwood.org/most_casual_observer/2011/10/emergency_communication_in_the.html
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> 
> On Jun 30, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Ariel Jacala wrote:
> 
> > Well, in that framework - I would have to agree that the PLB is better .....
> > How do I get one ....  :-)
> > Ariel NY4G
> > 
> >> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:24:45 -0700
> >> From: k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com
> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Amp
> >> 
> >> Yes, but.....
> >> 
> >> The original poster is going to be 200 miles from town.  He may or may 
> >> not be in VHF range of something when he needs help.  I'm pretty sure 
> >> he's out of range or he'd just get a couple of handhelds and call it done.
> >> 
> >> The Personal Locator Beacon frequency is monitored by two sets of 
> >> satellites -- a constellation of low-earth-orbit satellites that can 
> >> determine location, and a few geostationary satellites that see a wide 
> >> area of the planet, looking straight down at the surface of the earth.  
> >> The latter can read the GPS on the PLB.
> >> 
> >> The signal goes straight to search and rescue folks, and the beacons are 
> >> registered so they know exactly who they're going to be looking for.
> >> 
> >> Which would you prefer: push a button and it's done, or calling on 
> >> several bands and hoping one is open?
> >> 
> >> Again, I love amateur radio, and I would consider it part of my 
> >> emergency toolkit, but I'd trigger my PLB first in a real emergency.
> >> 
> >> -- Lynn
> >> 
> >> On 6/30/2013 5:09 PM, Ariel Jacala wrote:
> >>> Some HT's have GPS and with APRS one can send messages.  I have used it 
> >>> on hikes so my wife can track me on the internet as I hike.  The HT sends 
> >>> a beacon signal out and the movement can be tracked through APRS.fi   Any 
> >>> Ham can get an APRS account.    I have even used APRS on my iPhone for 
> >>> the same tracking capability.  Remote from civilization though you would 
> >>> need an HT with APRS like the VX8R by Yaesu or a TinyTrack tracker.  With 
> >>> the HT however, you can call for help and the reach can be substantial 
> >>> depending on elevation or having a nearby repeater.  Having worked 45 
> >>> states on Field Day just using a KX3 and a G0GSF dipole, I have no qualms 
> >>> with getting out and reaching people with a KX3 on HF.  When the 2m 
> >>> module gets out - I have a complete package for all modes of remote 
> >>> operation.
> >>> Ariel NY4G
> >>> 
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