Hi Joe & others who kindly replied,

What I expect and what I see as efficient may be an "abnormal action" 
to another person but to me it is incredibly efficient and doing it 
otherwise is making work and is to me an abnormal action. 

What I want is engage split when I engage Magenta MKR 2, not to 
engage the my Sub Rx or anything else. If I want to check out an 
interesting signal seen on the P3 I will use the K3 VFO A to go there 
or if I want to do it with the P3 I will use the green MKR A to go 
there, certainly not MKR B. - The only time I want to use the magenta 
MKR B is when I want to transmit on the frequency I placed MKR B on. 
Otherwise MKR B is of no interest to me.

To me, If I wanted to listen to two simultaneous unique signals at 
the same time by using MKR B to do that, I would expect to disengage 
split and engage the sub Rx.

When I am in a pileup I don't care to use the sub RX to hear stations 
calling the DX at the same time I am. With the P3 I see the other 
stations and don't need to hear them as well. If I weren't using the 
P3 then I would want to hear with the sub Rx as otherwise it's 
shooting in the dark. 

It appears what I expected from the P3 in regards to automatic split 
with engaging MKR B is not in the software. For those of us who 
prefer to use the VFO A of the K3 to fine tune in the DX and use the 
advantage of a narrow span to select where to transmit split and 
pounce on it with MKR B, such an option would only make sense. 

How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in 
the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do 
like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the 
world.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> > What I was expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial
> > for anyone who operates as I do.
> 
> That's not how it was designed to work.  Enabling split anytime Marker B
> was tapped would be disruptive to most users.
> 
> In the vast majority of cases setting/tapping Marker B says "this is an
> interesting signal - set VFO B so I can check it out using the KRX-3 or
> by executing A/B."
> 
> You are asking for something that is "a bridge to far" and expecting
> the K3/P3 to anticipate an abnormal action.
> 
> 73,
> 
>     ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 3/19/2014 11:17 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> > Sam,
> >
> > No, I've never made a macro, no idea how I'd approach that to
> > accomplish this. If it would work I'd be willing to try. What I was
> > expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial for anyone
> > who operates as I do.
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
> >
> >> just a thought....
> >> how about creating a macro that does what you want...?
> >>
> >> On 3/19/2014 9:31 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
> >>> Bill,
> >>>
> >>> Understood that some only use it that way, that is not my norm
> >>> though. I chase DX and If I engage the magenta operation with the P3,
> >>> its to be transmitting on a DX's listening frequency and in all those
> >>> cases I will be split.
> >>>
> >>> Since 1979 I've never listened on two bands simultaneously and if I
> >>> want to see what's happening on different bands that is of my DX
> >>> interest, I use the spot log in Logic 9, my logging software and it
> >>> compares all current spots posted in North America (my default) to
> >>> what is needed in my log and displays who, what, when, & where and
> >>> one click on the spot log & I QSY there. For that matter, it can
> >>> retain that spotting data for up to a month if I'm seeking a trend on
> >>> an operators methods.
> >>>
> >>> So, for my style of operation to date, I 100% of the time would want
> >>> the P3 to engage MKR B as a transmit frequency. For the prior 20
> >>> years till I assembled the K3 in 08 I used a Corsair II & external
> >>> VFO; I used it that way as well with the external VFO listening for
> >>> the place to transmit. Now thanks to the P3 I can see the spots and
> >>> don't need to hear them and the P3 is a great tool for DXing for me.
> >>>
> >>> What I do when I seek DX is so logical to me I can't help but think
> >>> its common for others as well. SInce the P3 communicates with the K3,
> >>> a firmware update of either the P3 or K3 to allow this choice of
> >>> engaging split when you select MKR B would be a genuine asset, I
> >>> expected it was a given.
> >>>
> >>> Gary
> >>> KA1J
> >>>
> >>>> No, not intuitive.
> >>>>
> >>>> MKR B is the VFO B frequency. Often one wants to listen on the B
> >>>> frequency. It may be on another band.
> >>>> SPLIT is a special case, not the norm.
> >>>>
> >>>> ...bill nr4c
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary Smith <g...@ka1j.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Reading the P3 screen I see a station transmitting. I use Marker A
> >>>> (Green) to pin me on that desired station as soon as I tap the knob
> >>>> to QSY me to a desired signal.
> >>>>
> >>>> I listen to the station and they say UP so I know to hold in the MKR
> >>>> button to activate B ((Magenta) I see where the last transmission is
> >>>> and I place the Magenta marker at that location and tap: The Sub Rx
> >>>> goes to that frequency where the DX was last listening but sub is not
> >>>> engaged, it just sits on that frequency and does nothing with it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Problem is that if I don't then reach over and manually hold the
> >>>> split button on the K3 itself to have the K3 transmit on the DX
> >>>> listening frequency, I'll still keep transmitting on the DX transmit
> >>>> frequency because the K3 will not have gone split; its as if the
> >>>> procedure is halted half way and it shouldn't function this way, its
> >>>> not intuitive.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I'm going to the effort to engage Marker B to QSY its because I
> >>>> want to transmit on the Marker B frequency. What do I have to the do
> >>>> differently to force the K3 go split to transmit on the B freq when I
> >>>> tap on MKR B?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary
> >>>> KA1J
> >>
> >>
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> >> K5OAI
> >> Sam Morgan
> >>
> >
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