If the band lines are used only, the ATU picks a mid band freq if there is no 
history since last ATU power up.  On first tx after that, it performs a memory 
recall tune using the counted freq. 

Power up means DC power applied.

A k3 can provide approx freq on RX thru the ACC cable, depending on a menu 
setting 

Dick, K6KR

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 16:20, Cliff Frescura <c...@cfcorp.com> wrote:
> 
> I went back and reviewed the KAT500 command set and it doesn't look like
> this is possible because the serial protocol does not have a way to
> communicate split status.  I've been knee deep in the KPA500 serial protocol
> (with great results thanks to Jack W6FB) and thought they may have some high
> level similarities, but not really.
> 
> Do you know how the KAT500 interprets frequency, if driving only the band
> data lines (BAND0-3) via an external TTL device?  Does it pick middle of the
> band if there is no last used frequency?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Cliff K3LL
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cliff Frescura [mailto:c...@cfcorp.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:58 PM
> To: 'Cady, Fred'; 'Elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning
> 
> Apparently yes.  However, I'm using the KAT500 serial port to communicate
> frequency to the KAT500 via logging software (DXLabs), not auxBus, since the
> radio is not a K3/S.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Cliff K3LL
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28 PM
> To: Cliff Frescura; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning
> 
> Are you asking for the KAT500 to choose two different tuning solutions when
> operating split?  At present it chooses the VFO B frequency for its solution
> according to:
> 
> MCU 4.83 / DSP 2.82, 2-8-2014
> 
> * FSK-D (RTTY) POWER-CONTROL BUG FIX: Power output can now be increased
> while in transmit mode when using FSK-D.
> 
> * KAT500 ATU SUPPORT: Automatic retuning of KAT500 LC network as K3 VFO is
> moved. VFO frequency messages are sent via the auxBus. Sends VFO A frequency
> except in SPLIT mode, where VFO B frequency is sent.
> 
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
> www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.
> ________________________________________
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Cliff
> Frescura <c...@cfcorp.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:09 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning
> 
> Antenna issues specific to the OP aside, there is a valid reason to have the
> KAT500 recognize split and inhibit retuning/recall.
> 
> The need for this functionality is very apparent when running split on 40m
> SSB when the DX is below 7.1 MHz and listening up much higher than 5KHz for
> anyone using a narrow bandwidth 40m antenna.  Consider that the KAT500
> already tuned the antenna on your TX, so the "fix the antenna solution"
> doesn't apply.  Listening ~50KHz away should not require any retuning since
> the tuner's settings at your TX should be good enough for RX.
> 
> Here is how it would work:
> 
> 1. When the KAT500 sees a *transition* from split off to split on...
>        a. The KAT500 would recall settings for TX Frequency or retune
> (under the VSWR settings condition) when it sees RF for the first time after
> this split transition 2. When split is on (Split mode)
>        b. The tuner should not change any settings regardless of
> frequency/band - except under VSWR conditions based on settings.
>        c. Perhaps both the "Auto" and "Man" indicators would be on in order
> to indicate this mode on the KAT front panel.
> 3. When the KAT500 sees a transition from split on to split off then go into
> "normal" (non Split) mode.
> 
> The main reason I am using the tuner is because of a compromise antenna.  If
> the antenna was flat enough across the band I wouldn't even engage it.  In
> my specific situation there is also at KPA500 connected, so the way that the
> KAT500 works today will result in the KAT inhibiting the KPA while it
> retunes/recalls.  Although fast, I suspect that the amp is not engaged
> initially when I send (speak) my call sign in the pile.  On very rare
> occasions there is also a KPA VSWR Fault.  While probably not an issue, the
> amount of relay chatter in very short period of time between fast RX/TX/RX
> transitions is a bit unsettling.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Cliff K3LL
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
> Brown
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:04 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning
> 
>> On Sat,11/14/2015 8:37 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
>> I will put the antenna analyzer on it tomorrow and make sure it's 
>> still solid after all this wind.
> 
> Other suggestions. First, put it on bypass and see what the SWR indication
> is. If it's reasonable, go to MAN mode, force a tuning (put
> K3 in TUN mode) and let it tune.
> 
> Carefully check the entire coax path between K3 and the antenna. All
> connectors should be finger tight, then tighten with gas pliers.
> 
> Any indication that the coax is wet? Moisture entering anywhere along the
> run will usually migrate all the way down to the lowest point. Open
> connectors to see if there's any moisture. A good way to test is to use a
> tissue or paper towel as a probe.
> 
> If you have TDR capability, look at the feedline for any discontinuities.
> You should see connectors, the antenna, and any switching between the
> antenna and your test point. Most vector analyzers can do TDR. If you don't
> have one of them, ask around your ham neighbors to borrow one (and ask them
> to help you do the measurement).
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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