Ditto Jim -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Rhodes" <j...@rhodesend.net> Sent: 18/09/2016 4:51 AM To: "Alan. G4GNX" <g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk> Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality
Nothing to add except that I have never owned tranceiver that did not sound better on headphones or an external speaker(s). On Sep 17, 2016 8:02 AM, "Alan. G4GNX" <g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk> wrote: > Well guys (and gals) so far there have been 34 replies on this thread and > I'm grateful for every one of them. > > I guess we need to try out forming some kind of hood to see if that will > work for the complainers and if that fails we may need to try an external > speaker. > > We actually had one guy last week (who is the main complainer) who boldly > stated that he was a hi-fi buff and I just groaned silently! I also agree > with the appliance-operator syndrome, where "it's no good unless it's > totally plug and play"! > > Several points come to mind: > > The comparison with the IC7300 seems to be a fair one to me, because that > rig also has an upward facing internal speaker and we did disconnect the > external speaker to check. To my ears (and several others) the IC7300 had > far better "quality" audio, but that said it is probably not optimum for > Amateur communications, which is what many don't seem to realise is what we > are 'actually' trying to achieve. > > It may pay us to find time to experiment with the DSP settings with the > complainers in the same room but unable to see the adjustments, to see if > they can be appeased, but I have my doubts because I suspect that the > prejudice is already well entrenched. > > I brought the IC7300 home and compared it with my IC7100 and it didn't > show a great deal of difference, perhaps slightly better because the IC7300 > is in a bigger enclosure. I haven't yet made a comparison with my own K3. > > One of the greatest problems with club owned equipment is the variation in > members' preferences as well as poor test conditions. In a large room with > many people, it's impossible to keep them all quiet and some folks seem to > think it's OK to stand right next to the operator/s and discuss some other > topic - LOUDLY. The only answer there seems to be headphones. The same goes > for filed days/contests. > > Perhaps we should start to wind this thread up now before it outstays its > welcome? :-) > > 73, > > Alan. G4GNX > > -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:58 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio quality > > I was not going to "chime in" on this thread because that "horse" has > been thoroughly beat to death in the past. > > Let's face it, a small speaker like that used in the K3/K3S is not going > to produce astounding bass and since it faces upwards away from your > ears, the high frequency sounds are going to get lost. > I believe it does exceptionally well for its size and quality. > > If you want good quality speaker audio from your K3/K3S, you are going > to have to use external speakers - pick your quality there too. I use a > pair of old Radio Shack Optimus speakers that I picked up for cheap at a > 2nd hand store. The 4 inch drivers sound great with my K3, but being 4 > inch drivers they are not expected to produce 'resounding bass', but > that is not required for communications. The internal speaker sounds > worse by comparison, but is usable if the external speakers are not > available. > > So, if you are comparing the audio between two radios, don't rely on the > internal speakers. Connect each one to good quality speakers - that way > you are comparing the radio's audio, and not the quality of the internal > speakers. Some radios produce better quality audio from their internal > speakers than others - for instance the KX3 internal speaker is far > inferior to the internal speaker used in the KX2. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimk...@gmail.com > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to vk1zzg...@gmail.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
