Jack,

I just assumed you were throwing in an extra 8 db for the difference between a 
beam and a wire dipole.

_____________ 
73,
Jim - N4ST

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On 
Behalf Of Jack Brindle
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 13:04
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Too Much Power

Let me correct myself before others do. Its a 12db difference. And I will rib 
Bill about it. Still, to the west and north he has very high hills/mountains 
that block the RF path. Makes me wonder if he was using reverse path for the 
QSOs.

73,
Jack, W6FB

> On May 25, 2018, at 4:32 PM, Jack Brindle <jackbrin...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen Bill’s setup. 50 watts with a decent gain antenna (i.e. beam) is 
> equivalent to 800 watts with Bill’s antenna and QTH. He really has done an 
> outstanding job with the resources he has to work with.
> Also remember, we are talking about a 4 to 5 db difference in power here. And 
> when you have pretty large mountains blocking your path to JA and EU, that 
> 4db of power can make a huge difference.
> QTH and the antenna system really make a huge difference! 
> 
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
> 
> 
>> On May 25, 2018, at 4:15 PM, Richard <flat...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> “I have a couple of FT8 contacts in my log -- with a DU and a JA -- 
>> reporting me at -24 dB where I WAS OPERATING AT 800 WATTS. YMMV.”
>> 
>> Why do you think you need 800 watts in a weak signal mode? Do you have any 
>> idea what that does to other operators? I’ve made several 10,000+ mile 
>> contacts with 50 watts, as have others who are following the “rules.” 
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