Thank you - I followed Fig 3 on page 10 which is specific to ICOM. Yes all 
cables ohm'd out with no shorts  

      From: Jack Brindle <jackbrin...@me.com>
 To: Ken B <backhoe...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable
   
Great! Thanks for the detail. Table 2 on page 8 of the KAT500 manual should 
have given you the exact connections you needed to make for the Molex to KAT500 
cable. Note that the plug o the KAt500 end is stereo with tip, ring and sleeve. 
Please recheck these connections to make sure that pin 4 of the Molex does 
indeed go to the sleeve of the mini-phone plug. It would be best to ohm out the 
cable to make sure the signals go to the right places and there are no shorts 
between pins.
Table 3 on that same page shows the Key-line connections, which I suspect are 
correct at the point. In any case be sure to check that cable as well.
73!Jack, W6FB


On Dec 30, 2018, at 4:13 PM, Ken B <backhoe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Good evening  The Icom IC-7600 KAT500, and KPA500 are each grounded to a single 
terminal strip with a #10 cable directly to a ground rod 15 ft away. The rod is 
12 ft deep. Both the KAP and KTA were factory built as my soldering skills have 
diminished since the Army training. 

The IC7600 - In the back of the 7600 is a 4 conductor molex connector. The Icom 
made cable splits into 2 connections on the KAT, the first is plugged into DC 
power, and the second is plugged into the Tuner connection  
- In the back of the 7600 is also a 7 conductor DIM connection (Acc2). I made a 
cable to connect pin 3 to the KAT PTT RLY

The KAT  - Other than mentioned above ant1 goes out to the antenna- XMTR is 
connected via a 2 ft piece of LMR400 to the output of the KAP- The unlabeled 
connector above the PTT RLY goes to the PA Key of the KAP

The KAP - Other than what is mentioned above the only other connection is a 
piece of LMR400 from Ant1 on the 7600 to input on the KAP. 

      From: Jack Brindle <jackbrin...@me.com>
 To: "backhoe...@yahoo.com" <backhoe...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
 Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 5:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable
  
Yeah, but we really want to get the problem solved so you can enjoy your KPA500 
and KAT500 as much as we enjoy ours.That connection list will be most helpful 
in this effort.
My thinking on the ground issue is that the power-plug ground is completing a 
circuit that should not exist and thus disruptingoperations on band change. The 
question would be what is connected to ground that should not be, and where?Are 
the KPA and KATs kits or did they come assembled?
73!Jack, W6FB

On Dec 30, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Ken B <backhoe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please allow me to clairify.   Everyone deserves time off.  I work 60 to 70 hrs 
per week and appricate the down time 
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Jack Brindle<jackbrin...@me.com> wrote:   
The folks in Watsonville are taking a well deserved rest, but some of us are 
still around. This sounds a lot like a grounding issue in your setup with 
ground being completed through the wall power ground pin. Tell me exactly all 
of the cables/connections going to the KPA500 (and from where). While you are 
at it you might as well do the same for the KAT500. I’ll try to decipher what 
is going on from this information and hopefully get a good solution for you 
quickly.

73!
Jack, W6FB
Elecraft Engineering


> On Dec 30, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Ken B via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion 
> Sorry for the delay the wife and I went out. The only way I can get it all to 
> work properly is to:- Remove AC power from the AMP (simply turning it off 
> dowes not work) - On the radio (icom 7600) select the band (ensure auto tuner 
> on Radio is off) - On Radio select AM and depress PTT - While holding PTT, 
> hit the tune button on the KAT500 - Let if get to 1.2 and stop - Let go PTT 
> and select SSB on Radio- Plug in AC power to KPA and power on - On KPA select 
> the proper band- On the KPA select operate from Standby  
> All works until I change bands then it is start from the top Cleared all 
> memory 
> Wish Elecraft was open on Monday. 
> ThanksKen 
> 
>      From: Don Wilhelm <donw...@embarqmail.com>
> To: "backhoe...@yahoo.com" <backhoe...@yahoo.com>; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500/KPA500 with Icom 7600 accessory cable
> 
> Ken,
> 
> If that Send cable is the only one you have connected between your Icom 
> and the KAT500, you need to feed a bit of RF to initiate a TUNE
> 
> The KAT500 will first look for a saved L/C combination for that antenna 
> and frequency and will switch to that rather than doing a TUNE.  
> Secondly, it will compute the SWR and if it is below 1.5, it will go 
> into bypass - no tuning is necessary.
> 
> Is it possible that either one of those conditions exist?
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/30/2018 6:12 AM, Ken B wrote:
>> Yes  from the 7600 accessory 1 pin 3 to the kat500
>> 
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>> 
>>    On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Don Wilhelm
>>    <donw...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>    Ken,
>> 
>>    Do you have the cable wired first to the KAT500 and then on to the
>>    KPA500?
>>    The KAT500 must interrupt the keying of the KPA500 when it needs
>>    to tune.
>> 
>>    73,
>>    Don W3FPR
>> 
>>    On 12/29/2018 10:13 PM, Ken B wrote:
>>    > Thank you Don.
>>    > The pin 3 (send) did the trick perfectly. Now it works at 300 to
>>    400
>>    > watts out with 20 in. The problem i have now is when i switch bands
>>    > the kat will not tune unless i remove all AC power from the amp.
>>    >
>>    >
>>    > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>    >
>>    
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>>    
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>> 
>> 
>>    >
>>    >    On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:36 PM, Don Wilhelm
>>    >    <donw...@embarqmail.com <mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>> wrote:
>>    >    Ken,
>>    >
>>    >    Look at your Icom 7600 documentation.  I believe the
>>    'keyword' may be
>>    >    "Send" or Keyout or something of that nature (PTT should be an
>>    >    input to
>>    >    the transceiver, not an output, but some manufacturers mix
>>    them up
>>    >    causing confusion - check the documentation).
>>    >    Connect that output from your transceiver first to the KAT500
>>    AMP KEY
>>    >    connector and from the other KAT500 AMP KEY connector to the
>>    KPA500.
>>    >    That allows the KAT500 to disable the amplifier keying if the
>>    KAT500
>>    >    needs to tune.
>>    >
>>    >    You should then be "good to go" with the basic cabling. When
>>    you get
>>    >    the proper cable, it will integrate better with your Icom,
>>    but the
>>    >    basic
>>    >    cabling will get you on the air with your new toys.
>>    >
>>    >    73,
>>    >    Don W3FPR
>>    >
>>    >    On 12/27/2018 11:14 PM, Ken B via Elecraft wrote:
>>    >    > Just received my the kap500 and found out it was missing the
>>    >    accessory cable which goes from the icom 7600 to the kat500.
>>    >    Elecraft is sending one but it might take a week. In the mean
>>    time
>>    >    does anyone have the accessory pin outs to rca plug so i can make
>>    >    one and use my new toy.
>>    >    > Thank youKenKc1icn
>>    >
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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