I’ve been using WinWarbler for RTTY for almost 10 years now, and it definitely
works pretty well with the rest of Dave’s suite of software. Or at least it did
with the original MK and later the MK-II. I still had some doozy problems
setting it up even then. I documented everything back then so if I experienced
a crash I could rebuild pretty quickly. But this is a wholesale change in which
dozens of settings are now different. Again, once this is all settled I’ll have
screenshot of each setting page so this will (hopefully) be a one-off…provided
I keep the K3!
RTTY is always the red-headed stepchild of radio setups for me, and the sooner
it fades into oblivion as a digital mode the happier I’ll be. I have little
love for FT8, but that’s where the DX is now!
- pjd
From: Barry <barrylaz...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 1:08 AM
To: Peter Dougherty <li...@w2irt.net>; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re[2]: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY
Peter,
For a simple uncomplicated set up, the software choice is whatever you are
familiar with, but the GENERAL set up should be the same. I use FLDIGI for two
reasons, I know it and it interfaces with N1MM for contesting. I doubt it works
better or worse than most of the others. With software there are no interfaces
needed if you are using a K3s making set up easier. Like I said earlier, it's
just a matter of letting your software know what sound card you are using, the
USB CODEC, and the com port of the radio. The rest is pretty much twisting the
knobs on the radio to set levels. You should loose no sleep over this; it's
make you tired and mistake prone. Only one thing I forgot to tell you and that
is turn your VOX on so the tones turn your transmitter on automatically and off
when you're finished sending.
I just looked up Winwarbler. It says it can be used for RTTY, but you need
either a multimode modem or some additional software and then they must all
play together. I really suggest not using Winwarbler if I am correct; it will
add an additional level of complexity. Use FLDIGI. MixW, MultiPSK, or another
complete S/W application. The setup should be more straight forward.
If you want, I can talk you through it via LL phone. It really shouldn't
take more than about 30-45 minutes to make it all play. Contact me directly and
I'll give you my phone number. But, I don't function before about noon EDT.
73,
Barry
K3NDM
------ Original Message ------
From: "Peter Dougherty" <li...@w2irt.net <mailto:li...@w2irt.net> >
To: "Barry" <barrylaz...@gmail.com <mailto:barrylaz...@gmail.com> >;
Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 3/19/2019 9:56:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY
Before I start messing with FLDigi, I would really rather prefer to get it
working with the native DX Lab Suite first, and why I mentioned it in my
initial post. Adding more software that I don’t (and will never) understand is
the very last thing I want to do unless there is no way around it.
When I used FSK with the MicroKeyer it was dead simple, RTTY filtering came up
as a default in the radio (twin peak filtering) and it worked with almost no
configuration. I would like to have something similar using AFSK and USB
connectivity—specifically the twin-peak brick-wall filtering. Right now, just
switching in to RTTY mode in WinWarbler just puts the radio into LSB mode and
that’s it.
Like I said, I really need to get this working with WW if it’s compatible. I’ve
had maybe 3 hours of sleep per night for the last 3 nights playing with this
radio, N1MM, and DX Lab Suite, and I’m almost no further ahead than I was 3
nights ago. All I have is CW via WinWarbler and full manual control. CW sending
and /RTTY tone just won’t work for me so far. Everybody was saying last year
that it isn’t that hard to do….yet here we are!
- pjd
From: Barry <barrylaz...@gmail.com <mailto:barrylaz...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:24 PM
To: Peter Dougherty <li...@w2irt.net <mailto:li...@w2irt.net> >;
Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY
Peter,
I'm not that familiar with Winwarbler, but I do run AFSK when using RTTY.
You could use DATA A on the K3s or AFSK. I prefer to use the AFSK mode as it
appear to work better than just using DATA A. The set up should be about the
same as you are using for FT8 using the radio's built in sound card for the
software you use; I prefer FLDIGI just because.
The K3s does do FSK, but I'm not sure there is a real advantage over
running in the AFSK mode with some digital software. The data mode as you call
it is DATA A on the radio. It means you can feed the output of some digital
software into the radio and use any available bandwidth. It also turns off the
equalizers and compressor. AFSK has a filter for each tone.
I'm not sure why you have had some much difficulty as I would estimate it
shouldn't take more than one day. ;-)
As you have a K3s, the set up really shouldn't be a lot of trouble. Start
by downloading FLDIGI and connecting the radio using the USB connector. This
allows both control of the radio and audio in and out. Set the sound card in
FLDIGI to USB CODEC line in and speaker out. The radio will reflect a com port
that will be used for control, use it at 38,400 8N2. Now you're set to go. Use
the mic control on the front of the radio to set the level for the transmitter
such that ALC will show 4 bars and a flickering 5th. The power level should be
set with the knob that controls power. This should be how you set up for FT8
using WSJT-X. All you need to do is set op mode in FLDIGI and go. Have fun!
73,
Barry
K3NDM
.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Peter Dougherty" <li...@w2irt.net <mailto:li...@w2irt.net> >
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 3/19/2019 8:59:17 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Sending AFSK RTTY
I haven't sent AFSK RTTY in almost 18 years so I'm not sure how I should set
my K3s up for it. I will be using it with DX Labs WinWarbler exclusively (I
don't do RTTY contesting, so no need to get it working with N1MM). I have
the radio setup for USB communication exclusively. Before this I had a
MicroKeyer-II and was sending FSK. Given the rise of FT8 I doubt I'll be
doing much RTTY anymore, but I still need to have it available just in case.
Using WinWarbler, I don't see any option to use a data mode for RTTY, just
LSB (again, we're talking AFSK now). Isn't there a data mode built into the
K3s for RTTY? Or is that just for FSK? Or is it a case of only using data
mode for one (and only one) data format? At the moment, I have the radio
using Data mode for FT8.
Sorry for the confusion-it's been three days of trying to find the right
settings for everything, with only very limited success. Thanks as always.
----------------------------------------------------
Regards,
Peter Dougherty
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