GM Doug,    A fully loaded K3 P3 was always dear.   It rivalled the 7850 price 
but did not reach the cost while arguably being the better radio.   The fully 
loaded K4 is less expensive to my reckoning in todays money than the loaded K3 
with P3 and physically smaller.    I suspect it may not be so much superior to 
the K3 in RF terms except that it is in the important area of ergonomics.   The 
wait has been excessive for sure.Your reasonng is understandable.   Hope the 
next radio is great.   Meanwhile keep enjoying ham radio.I will keep waiting.73 
Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Doug Person <d...@k0dxv.com> Date: 
08/06/2021  03:34  (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] 
Giving Up Sadly, I've decided to give up waiting for the K4. I'm probably far 
down the list anyway. Their are numerous reason for this decision. First, there 
is the cost. With a tuner the price is $4600 making it one of the most 
expensive transceivers on the market. I fully realize that the K4 is feature 
rich and extremely well designed. I would never take anything away from 
Elecraft's engineering ability. The K3 set a new standard of performance that 
made the other manufacturers substantially up their game - which they did. But 
is the K4 going to do the same thing the K3 did? To me, it doesn't look like 
it. Innovative in some, perhaps many ways - yes. A new trend setter? I'm not so 
sure. When the K3 came out it was very competitively priced. I'm not sure I 
would describe the K4 with the same words. It is unquestionably an expensive 
radio. At this point the price/performance just isn't there for me. I sold my 
very complete K3 station several years ago in anticipation of the K4. But now 
the waiting has left me thinking about how much I'm willing to invest and 
whether or not another brand whose transceivers are as much as $1500 less and 
whose performance seems quite impressive will meet my needs. After literally 
several years of contemplation I conclude that, for me, the K4 is not worth the 
price. $3600 (with the tuner since every other significant radio includes one) 
would seem competitive and I would jump on it at this price. But as it is? 
Can't see doing it. I apologize if feelings are hurt or I've made anyone angry. 
I'm leaving the list since I'm no longer waiting patiently for what we once 
called Vaporware.Good luck to everyone on their current and future K4s.Doug -- 
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