A FREAKIN' MEN! Greg
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:11 PM To: 'Julian G4ILO'; 'elecraft' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Questions for any K3 FTs > When the greener option is cheaper, and taking a train costs less than > using the car, I'll start believing that this global warming thing > isn't just an excuse for businesses to make more money and governments > to increase taxes. When CO2 levels in the atmosphere begin to approach the midpoint of the historical (geologic) average, I'll believe that human generated CO2 is a threat to the planet. Is the climate changing? Yes. Has the planetary climate changed many times and through great extremes before human civilization and industrialization? Yes. Is climate change the result of the increase in CO2 as the result of industrialization? Not by a long shot! Will reducing the output of population related CO2 effect climate change? Probably not since CO2 production due to human activity is but a tiny fraction of all global CO2 production. This alleged connection between human CO2 and Global Warming is nothing more than a transparent attempt by bureaucrats to further erode individual rights and impose central control. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian G4ILO > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:45 AM > To: elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Questions for any K3 FTs > > > Yep, that's about what it costs here in the UK as well. > > I'm not convinced that climate change is being caused by people > leaving their TV on stand-by or their ham-shack power supply on, and > even if it is, switching it off is going to make no difference given > the increasing industrialization of India, China and other developing > countries. But fifty quid a year of my money is worth saving. What > would it cost for manufacturers to use non-volatile memory, and > include a battery in the VCR to keep the clock going? > > That won't solve the problem of keeping the batteries in the K2 and > FT-817 charged up, though. I guess a solar panel would do that, but > it's an expensive option to save a small amount of electricity (just > like the home wind turbine I saw in a local DIY store last weekend - > $2,500 equivalent for something that will generate 1KW max, in a gale, > and more like 40W in a light breeze.) > > When the greener option is cheaper, and taking a train costs less than > using the car, I'll start believing that this global warming thing > isn't just an excuse for businesses to make more money and governments > to increase taxes. > > -- > Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com > > > On 8/29/07, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > About 25 cents (US). It's not just about saving money - > energy production > > causes pollution, it's about saving our poor planet as well :-) > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
