Sorry to continue this thread (1 and only post on this), but .... I don't remember it being described as 0.5ppm - only as 1ppm - it's on the order page as +/- 1ppm.
OK, so there may have been a mail saying with firmware Elecraft might be able to better that (I can't be bothered to search the archives to find out frankly). But its sold as a 1ppm TCXO. I don't believe it is advertised as anything other than a 1ppm. The only ref. I can find on the K3 products page is: "- All signal sources phase-locked to common 49.380 MHz reference oscillator; 1 PPM TCXO option" As one who has railed against the previous delivery delays and is still waiting for the KRX3 and KDVR3 (lets not go there, I know and accept why the delays), I think I must defend them on this one - they are not advertising something here that you are not getting. 73 de M0XDF / K3 #174 On 04/03/2008 22:41, "S Sacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > Hi Brett - > > I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I PAID for .5 ppm > capability, and it's not available to me. Further, Elecraft continues > to advertise and sell it, but makes no effort to disclose that you > won't be getting everything you paid for. > > It should be painfully obvious that there are two issues here - one is > that the firmware isn't available, and, the other the way Elecraft > choses to handle that problem. > > I find their approach to be very disrespectful of their customers, and > it's apparently SOP for them. > > Let's end this here, okay? I think we've both stated our opinions > very well, and obviously each of us is steadfast in our position. > > 73, > Steve NN4X > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Brett Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't remember how or why but I knew that it wasn't done before you'd >> mentioned being upset about it. I wish I knew where it was that I'd learned >> that but to me it was made very clear that this capability wasn't there yet. >> Have you noted a difference between the 1ppm you have and the 0.5ppm that >> they haven't released yet? >> >> I'd hope that you realized that there were still some options that weren't >> fully ready yet and that they were going to be coming in the near future. >> This is a small piece of the pie and I'm willing to bet its something that >> you don't even notice and probably don't even have the equipment (or at the >> very least time) to test it. I think I'd just not fret the numbers and just >> enjoy the hobby... I understand being upset that the feature isn't there >> instantly but it's a pretty minor deal considering the cost that you paid >> for the best receiver in the market right now isn't it? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S Sacco >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:37 AM >> To: Elecraft Users >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High Accuracy TCXO >> >> Hi Brett - >> >> Simply because they're advertising it with that capability (.5 ppm), >> and generally figure that if something's being represented and sold >> with certain capabilities, it should have same, and if it doesn't, it >> should be disclosed at time of sale. >> >> It's been a long time, but I'll guess that I imagined, back last June, >> that it would be available by the time I took delivery. >> >> Thanks & 73, >> >> Steve NN4X >> >> >> >> On 3/4/08, Brett Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> You do still get a 4ppm improvement so why wouldn't they take money for >> the >>> units? Granted the software is supposed to help make a small extra >>> improvement but I don't see any reason why this would prevent them from >>> selling the higher accuracy TCXO. Not sure why I think it may have been >>> this list but I knew that that wasn't implemented yet. Maybe it was a >>> manual errata or something. >> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: S Sacco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:31 AM >>> To: Brett Howard >>> Cc: Elecraft Users >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High Accuracy TCXO >>> >> >> >>> Brett - >>> >>> I'm not sure anyone knows the answer to your question: Elecraft still >>> isn't shipping firmware to support the 1ppm TCXO...although they ARE >>> happily taking our money for the units. (I have one installed). >>> >>> 73, >>> Steve NN4X >>> >>> >>> On 3/4/08, Brett Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Does the higher accuracy TCXO result in lower phase noise? If so in dB >>>> how much lower would one expect out of a delta in 4 ppm and 4.5 ppm. >>>> This is assuming the 4ppm which one will get with out implementation of >>>> firmware correction and 4.5 ppm delta which one will obtain once this >>>> feature is implemented in firmware. >>>> >>>> ~Brett (KC7OTG) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. 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