Phil: Thanks you for your comments. You confirm everything I said about marketing. I stand by my comments about Microsoft and the marketing of the P-3. If you think the asking price is cheap then I guess that is what we will be paying, but we will pay it for the reasons I stated. I also like Elecraft, but like some of us seek value for my money with an empahsis on more value and less money.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:40:12 -0800 From: ml-node+4566854-287279...@n2.nabble.com To: ronce...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Elecraft P3 panadapter at the Orlando Hamcation I think the estimated $700 price is cheap. I was thinking it would be closer to $1000. There is a similar product from Yaesu, the DMU-2000 with a list price of $1400 and it does not even include the monitor which you must supply yourself. I think the street price is possibly under $1000 though. Now, we do not know how close or far apart the DMU-2000 is from the P3 but it does set at least one price point. Another price point is the LP-PAN and sound-card plus computer configuration. If you buy an external USB sound card then you are starting to get closer to the ball park area of the $700 (of course, depending on all kinds of factors that are too variable to make any close comparison). I bet though that many hams would gladly pay several hundred dollars more for the P3 to avoid the hassle of doing up their own solution using the LP-PAN approach. About Microsoft selling Windows 7 at a profit for 50 cents! Your joking of course. I have a number of good friends on the Microsoft Windows 7 product team (I live about 4 miles from the Microsoft campus) and they would beg to differ with you. They have, depending on how you measure it which is not easy, a multi-billion dollar development effort that they need to recapture by selling Windows 7. Or, look at it another way, their first several million copies of Windows 7 are still being sold at a huge loss. You can actually read their shareholders reports and find out some of the cost for developing Windows 7. As for me, I will buy the P3. Cost? It is not so high that it would be totally unreasonable I am betting. 73, phil, K7PEH On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:23 AM, KM4VX wrote: > > What drives the price of a new product more than anything is marketing. > Microsoft could sell Windows 7 at profit for 50 cents but charges $149.00. > The P-3 price is being defined here on the reflector by those of us who are > so enthusiastic about Elecraft; hams may be called "cheap" but have > considerable discretionary spending available. The P-3 could sell for a few > hundred dollars at profit, similar to other panadapters. Instead, we are > talking about more than double that price. Companies recover their R&D > investments over time, and the higher the selling price the shorter the R&D > investment recovery period. How about a breather here? The $700 price being > tossed around is a bit absurd in my view. Yeah, many of us can and will pay > it, but its okay to talk about 3-400 dollars and Elecraft would do just > fine. Offer the company double their profitable selling price and they are > delighted to take it. Why not? Mail a check now? If the price is determined > by what we are willing to pay, consider paying less. It is okay to pay less > guys. 73. Ron > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-P3-panadapter-at-the-Orlando-Hamcation-tp4564111p4566779.html > Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-P3-panadapter-at-the-Orlando-Hamcation-tp4564111p4566854.html To unsubscribe from Re: Elecraft P3 panadapter at the Orlando Hamcation, click here. _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-P3-panadapter-at-the-Orlando-Hamcation-tp4564111p4566979.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
