So the sponsoring organizations who decided that using the clusters puts 
you into the assisted category are wrong?

Skimmer uses another receiver, the band maps in the logging programs use 
either Telnet or Packet clusters spots for their data. Since Packet and 
Telnet clusters count as "assisted" why should Skimmer not? Just because 
it's the Ham Radio technology "soup de jour"?


Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>   
>> Since Skimmer is nothing more than a more accurate and visual form of 
>> Telnet or Packet cluster those using it should submit logs in the 
>> assisted category just like those who use the DX clusters now are 
>> required to do.
>>     
>
> That's a complete mischaracterization of CW Skimmer. 
>
> CW skimmer is nothing more than a second receiver and multi-channel 
> CW decoder.  It is no different conceptually than a scanner and 
> CW Get or the decoder in Writelog except it takes the process one 
> step further by providing the data in a way that it can be displayed 
> in a logging program "band map" or combined with a panadapter display. 
> Those capabilities have existed individually for many years and in 
> combination for several years in the digital modes.   
>
> To call skimmer "assisted" is a farce.  It completely twists the 
> definition of assisted which used to mean - assistance by another 
> person in making a QSO - and ignores more than 40 years in which 
> technology has replaced things often done by a "second operator."  
>
> 73, 
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV 
>  
>
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R. Kevin Stover
>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:00 AM
>> To: Bob - W0GI
>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] For you Anti-Scopes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob - W0GI wrote:
>>     
>>> I realize that many run CW without a computer, and it may 
>>>       
>> be an unfair 
>>     
>>> advantage, but then so is an antenna up 100ft with a 1500W amp 
>>> competing against a poor ham with a dipole and 100W.
>>>
>>> The hams with the megabucks have the advantage no matter what. :>)
>>>   
>>>       
>> There's the rub.
>>
>> The guy with the 100 ft tower running the 1500W is competing against 
>> others with similar setups and running the same power, NOT 
>> against the 
>> guy running 100W into a dipole.
>>
>> Since Skimmer is nothing more than a more accurate and visual form of 
>> Telnet or Packet cluster those using it should submit logs in the 
>> assisted category just like those who use the DX clusters now are 
>> required to do.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> R. Kevin Stover
>>
>> ACØH
>>
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-- 
R. Kevin Stover

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