> So the sponsoring organizations who decided that using the > clusters puts you into the assisted category are wrong?
No, the clusters represent the input of ANOTHER OPERATOR. Just like a telephone call, or someone else setting at the next desk with a receiver. There is a FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE when another person is involved. > Skimmer uses another receiver, the band maps in the logging > programs use either Telnet or Packet clusters spots for their > data. Since Packet and Telnet clusters count as "assisted" > why should Skimmer not? Skimmer is not another PERSON. The difference between skimmer and Telnet or Packet is like the difference between computer logging/duping/Super Check Partial/History files and having a second operator setting beside you filling in the log, keeping the dupe sheet and correcting your copying. The difference is technology vs. ANOTHER PERSON. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: R. Kevin Stover [mailto:rksto...@mchsi.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:10 AM > To: Joe Subich, W4TV > Cc: 'Bob - W0GI'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] For you Anti-Scopes > > > So the sponsoring organizations who decided that using the > clusters puts > you into the assisted category are wrong? > > Skimmer uses another receiver, the band maps in the logging > programs use > either Telnet or Packet clusters spots for their data. Since > Packet and > Telnet clusters count as "assisted" why should Skimmer not? > Just because > it's the Ham Radio technology "soup de jour"? > > > Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > > >> Since Skimmer is nothing more than a more accurate and > visual form of > >> Telnet or Packet cluster those using it should submit logs in the > >> assisted category just like those who use the DX clusters now are > >> required to do. > >> > > > > That's a complete mischaracterization of CW Skimmer. > > > > CW skimmer is nothing more than a second receiver and multi-channel > > CW decoder. It is no different conceptually than a scanner and > > CW Get or the decoder in Writelog except it takes the process one > > step further by providing the data in a way that it can be > displayed > > in a logging program "band map" or combined with a > panadapter display. > > Those capabilities have existed individually for many years and in > > combination for several years in the digital modes. > > > > To call skimmer "assisted" is a farce. It completely twists the > > definition of assisted which used to mean - assistance by another > > person in making a QSO - and ignores more than 40 years in which > > technology has replaced things often done by a "second operator." > > > > 73, > > > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R. > Kevin Stover > >> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:00 AM > >> To: Bob - W0GI > >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] For you Anti-Scopes > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Bob - W0GI wrote: > >> > >>> I realize that many run CW without a computer, and it may > >>> > >> be an unfair > >> > >>> advantage, but then so is an antenna up 100ft with a 1500W amp > >>> competing against a poor ham with a dipole and 100W. > >>> > >>> The hams with the megabucks have the advantage no matter what. :>) > >>> > >>> > >> There's the rub. > >> > >> The guy with the 100 ft tower running the 1500W is > competing against > >> others with similar setups and running the same power, NOT > >> against the > >> guy running 100W into a dipole. > >> > >> Since Skimmer is nothing more than a more accurate and > visual form of > >> Telnet or Packet cluster those using it should submit logs in the > >> assisted category just like those who use the DX clusters now are > >> required to do. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> R. Kevin Stover > >> > >> ACØH > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > > > > > > > > -- > R. Kevin Stover > > ACØH > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
