Great conversation for the cq-contest mailing list...hope to see it
continued there.  :-)



On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:09 AM, R. Kevin Stover <rksto...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> So the sponsoring organizations who decided that using the clusters puts
> you into the assisted category are wrong?
>
> Skimmer uses another receiver, the band maps in the logging programs use
> either Telnet or Packet clusters spots for their data. Since Packet and
> Telnet clusters count as "assisted" why should Skimmer not? Just because
> it's the Ham Radio technology "soup de jour"?
>
>
> Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>>> Since Skimmer is nothing more than a more accurate and visual form of
>>> Telnet or Packet cluster those using it should submit logs in the
>>> assisted category just like those who use the DX clusters now are
>>> required to do.
>>>
>>
>> That's a complete mischaracterization of CW Skimmer.
>>
>> CW skimmer is nothing more than a second receiver and multi-channel
>> CW decoder.  It is no different conceptually than a scanner and
>> CW Get or the decoder in Writelog except it takes the process one
>> step further by providing the data in a way that it can be displayed
>> in a logging program "band map" or combined with a panadapter display.
>> Those capabilities have existed individually for many years and in
>> combination for several years in the digital modes.
>>
>> To call skimmer "assisted" is a farce.  It completely twists the
>> definition of assisted which used to mean - assistance by another
>> person in making a QSO - and ignores more than 40 years in which
>> technology has replaced things often done by a "second operator."
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of R. Kevin Stover
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:00 AM
>>> To: Bob - W0GI
>>> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] For you Anti-Scopes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob - W0GI wrote:
>>>
>>>> I realize that many run CW without a computer, and it may
>>>>
>>> be an unfair
>>>
>>>> advantage, but then so is an antenna up 100ft with a 1500W amp
>>>> competing against a poor ham with a dipole and 100W.
>>>>
>>>> The hams with the megabucks have the advantage no matter what. :>)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There's the rub.
>>>
>>> The guy with the 100 ft tower running the 1500W is competing against
>>> others with similar setups and running the same power, NOT
>>> against the
>>> guy running 100W into a dipole.
>>>
>>> Since Skimmer is nothing more than a more accurate and visual form of
>>> Telnet or Packet cluster those using it should submit logs in the
>>> assisted category just like those who use the DX clusters now are
>>> required to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> R. Kevin Stover
>>>
>>> ACØH
>>>
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>>
>
> --
> R. Kevin Stover
>
> ACØH
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