IMHO, For those starting out who do not realize there is such a thing as 
performance differences and want everything in the cheapest package they can 
buy, there are the small box 100w mobiles availabe for 699 I think.  That 
creates a lot of sales to first timers.  They are looking at 699 vs 2149 
assuming they want somebody else to assemble it too.  Different market. 
Larger product line (NO, I don't think Elecraft should build a 699 radio).

Y,I, the Big 2?,  Y,I K, the Bir 3?  ELECRAFT the BIG ONE.

73, de Jim KG0KP - Elecraft RULES

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Howard" <br...@livecomputers.com>
To: <w...@w5ov.com>
Cc: "Edward R Cole" <kl...@acsalaska.net>; <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG


Actually the K3 can sell a LOT less than 100Million and be on par with
the number of IKY's sold.  While Elecraft is a Ham Radio only
organization IKY make a lot of money selling communications products
to completely unrelated sectors.

~Brett

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM,  <w...@w5ov.com> wrote:
> You can't argue with the numbers. And while Eric and company would like to
> be a $100 million company, I think they have some way to go to reach that
> level.
>
> The reason you run into others with the K3 is that you are here in the
> U.S. and many of those folks are like-minded with you and I, looking for
> the best performing radio available. Remember, there are a lot of people
> who are not even aware of the K3 and only consider I/Y/K radios.
>
> None of what I said in any way should be construed to be negative about
> the K3 - it's just that the number of them sold in no way compares to what
> Icom and Yaesu (and Kenwood) sell world-wide. $100 million in K3 terms =
> about 25,000 of them annually. We all know that there are not even close
> to 25,000 K3's out there.
>
> As further evidence of my personal perspective, my K3 occupies the spot
> where my 756Pro3 used to be and I have no regrets. In fact, I just used it
> for the first time on 6m last weekend in the VHF test and it worked very
> well - even without the optional preamp on 6m.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>> First off my K3/10 is what most consider QRP. I use a used MFJ-945E
>> tuner on 80-6m (also used when I ran my FT-847 on HF). Supposedly
>> rated to 300w (?) but I do not have anything that runs that high built.
>>
>> But, mainly, I want to respond to the "K3 types are devoted and
>> loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur
>> market" statement. Really? Then why do I run into all these K3
>> owners on the many e-mail reflectors, I inhabit? I can say the K3 is
>> very well though of and gaining popularity with the VHF+, EME, and
>> microwave crowd! To say they are in the lead for ultimate
>> weak-signal operations, and the K3 is considered one of the best (if
>> not the best) for that.
>>
>> and that is why I own one.
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7uW
>> "hint uW = microwave"
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 43
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:14:31 -0500
>> From: "Bob Naumann" <w...@w5ov.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG
>> To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>> Message-ID: <013701cb0e1f$05dd5f00$11981d...@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> For a moment, consider that what the LDG rep says may be true.
>>
>> I suspect that it is, given the incredible advertising & promotional
>> budgets
>> that Icom and Yaesu apparently have from sales of their products.
>>
>> While Elecraft is clearly doing well and they're growing, it is also 
>> clear
>> that these long-standing manufacturers (I,Y) are selling lots more 
>> radios.
>> A
>> quick Internet search shows that it is estimated that Icom USA (Note: 
>> This
>> is USA only) has sales revenues on a yearly basis of between $50 million
>> and
>> $100 million. Then, add whatever Icom is doing in the rest of the world,
>> and
>> you begin to get the picture of how big these companies are in 
>> comparison.
>>
>> What this tells us is that while us K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're
>> just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market compared to 
>> the
>> "big two". (Kenwood doesn't count until they come out with a real radio -
>> then it once again may be the 'big 3').
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> W5OV
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
>> ======================================
>> BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com
>> EME: 144-600w, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-fall 2010
>> DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com
>> ======================================
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