On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:05:17 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in part:

Bart Ingles wrote in part:

 >On the question of IRV vs Plurality, I would like to first point out
 >that pure first-past-the-post is not really the norm for U.S.
 >elections. For nonpartisan local elections, the question should really
 >be IRV vs. Runoff. And for partisan state and federal elections, we
 >generally have primary and general elections, which are similar in
 >effect to runoffs.


For New York State the standard is partisan for all elections in the state except:
By law, villages can choose nonpartisan.
New York City is considering nonpartisan for city offices.
School boards are in their own world - at least some are nonpartisan.


I question this emphasis on runoff. It could be true for PARTS of the US, but I did not find the word in a quick search of New York State election law. Also, within NYS, some cities, etc., do do runoffs.

Relating primaries to runoffs bothers me:
A primary is an election within a party to decide which of competing candidates the party shall nominate for the general election.
A party would not WANT to nominate competing candidates for the general election (assuming Plurality) - such could split the vote of party backers, thus improving the odds of some other party's candidate winning.
A party COULD use a runoff to resolve primary results being too close to a tie.



David Gamble

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