At 06:44 PM 9/11/2005, Kevin Venzke wrote:
I thought about this a bit. Consider this election:

49 A
24 B>E
27 C>D>B>E

C has 3 wins, and is the only Copeland winner.

Let's look at this. C is not just the Copeland winner, C is the Condorcet winner, because in all the pairwise elections, A has 49 votes, and *all the other candidates* have 51 votes, because all the other candidates' voters ranked A last by truncating. Eliminate A, and C obviously has more votes than B.

So exactly who would Mr. Venzke have win this election? Looks to me like the electorate is (1) polarized very badly, and no election method is going to produce really good results with such an electorate, and (2) A majority of voters preferred "anybody but A."

If it is not A, then who should it be? Obviously, C.

As to violated criteria, I will note that "election criteria" are typically characteristics of elections that, on the face, usually seem to be sensible and necessary. This can be incorrect.... This is why such criteria should be considered carefully. The only methods that I have seen that don't violate *some* criterion incorporate a deliberative process and thus don't fully qualify as "election methods" which normally are expected to mechanically produce a winner from the votes.



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