Good Morning, Kristofer

[The following relates to the corruption of elected officials after they take office.]

re: "... make the system so competitive that the pressure to be
     honest is greater than that to become corrupt. I don't think
     it can be done by the latter, at least not alone ..."

I agree. Our ultimate goal must be a system that harnesses our predilection for pursuing our own interest. In doing so, we must recognize and respect the power of that inclination.

It is an asset during selection when the value of being (perceived as) honest exceeds the value of being corrupt, but the pressure to maintain a mantle of probity diminishes when the competition ends. After that point, the pursuit of self-interest can become a threat. Indeed, there is a self-justifying argument that, having exercised restraint before achieving office, one is entitled to the rewards the office makes possible.

Stated more simply, Practical Democracy harnesses our natural tendency to pursue own interest, but that vital characteristic of the method disappears when the selection process ends. Thereafter, we must find other means to restrain the adverse effects of the excessive pursuit of self-interest.


re: "Perhaps representatives should have strict limits as to what
     they can accept, so that overt bribery is weakened ..."

This approach is not usually successful. As I mentioned last week in relation to the attempt to curtail 'Pay to Play' in New Jersey, the laws intended to impose 'strict limits' are enacted with loopholes that limit their effectiveness. Protecting a valuable resource by surrounding it with thieves is not the best way to ensure a satisfactory result. Instead, we need a structural change that limits incipient corruption.


re: "This [limiting what representatives can accept] might be
     difficult in the United States, though, because of court
     decisions setting spending as free speech (more or less;
     I'm not familiar with the details)."

This issue is loaded! It is worthy of careful examination in its own right, but I shall only make a few comments about it.

* The notion that the rights of humans extend to non-human
  entities is fundamentally flawed.  It sets the stage for a
  plethora of anti-human abuses.

* By definition, the idea that one may use their 'money as free
  speech' gives the loudest voice to those with the most money.
  That is no less perverse than restricting the right to vote to
  land-owners.

* Laws implementing the 'money as free speech' concept make a
  distinction between 'hard money' (money given directly to
  individuals, which carries limits) and 'soft money' (money
  given to political parties, which is virtually unlimited ...
  and makes parties the conduits of corruption that plague us.)


re: "If lobbyists are used (ideally) as a shortcut to the
     opinions of those that have different positions in the
     community, maybe this could be formalized."

It is formalized (in the U. S.) in the sense that legislatures schedule hearings during which lobbyists present the positions of the community. The flaw in the formal system is that there are no restraints on the access lobbyists have to legislators outside the hearing rooms. As a result, the lobbyists suborn legislators, sub rosa, out of the public eye. The only way to stop this is to implement a structural change that denies those with an interest in legislation access to those who deliberate on and enact legislation, except in public hearings held for the purpose of informing the legislators. All other contact between lobbyists and legislators must be prevented.


re: "(Of course, one should beware not to let "the people
     wouldn't understand" run rampant and turn the entire affair
     into something autocratic.)"

Bravo!!!

Wish I'd said that.

Fred
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