Chris writes,

<Safari  occasionally  "locks  up"  the  computer  completely.  I've
noticed that this occurs mostly when Emailer begins its  20 minute
schedule. That's the only time I have to restart my computer.

I have a semi regular issue with Safari where it starts to slow down,  
and if ignored will eventually hang. It hasn't crashed my Mac forcing  
any kind of a restart, but it has "hung" it significantly where force  
quitting Safari has been difficult.

Now, when I notice Safari starting to slow down (about every two  
weeks or so), I simply quit it and relaunch it, and the problem goes  
away. I'm guessing it is some kind of either memory leak or some  
cache problem that isn't being cleared so over time it builds up and  
causes problems.

This is on 10.4.8 Intel with Safari 2.0.4 (419.3)>

I just checked my Safari to see what version I have, and yes, it's also 
2.0.4 (419.3) -- running with 10.4.8 but not on an Intel -- I've never 
noticed Safari slow down (much less crawl!), and it hasn't ever hung, 
locked up or "unexpectedly quit" on me at any time. This discussion of 
bad Safari behavior caught my attention because for me, Safari always 
behaves beautifully, to the point where I haven't yet gotten motivated 
enough to do my planned tryout of Firefox. (BTW, what "20 minute 
schedule" for Emailer do you mean?)

And on the subject of Firefox, this is finally going to motivate me to 
give that a whirl. Martin writes,

<I  didn't  bother  to  mention  Safari  faults  that are  unrelated to
running  "Classic".  Yes,  my  Safari  also  slows  down  to  a  crawl
occasionally and I have to restart it. It also  crashes at  least once
a  week  when  I  click on  a "Submit"  button (a web  site form  or a
discussion  forum  post  window). I  just put  this down to "normal"
Safari  operation.

This is on non-Intel 10.4.8 with Safari 2.0.4 (419.3)>

First things first though: Well, my Classic Mode is always up and running 
in the background at the very least, but I've done plenty of "submit" on 
web site forms and discussion forum windows in Safari -- with no crashing 
at any time. For me, smooth Safari operation is what's "normal."

<If I didn't dislike Firefox so much (tabs and hidden favourites) I'd use 
that instead. But I prefer the Safari interface.>

Tabbed browsing, huh? COOL! Before I got OS X and started surfing on 
Safari, the browser I ended up going with permanently was iCab (other 
browsers I'd used or tried, pre-OS X, were Netscape, Mozilla and, before 
I deleted it, I actually tried the Internet Exploiter which came with OS 
9, twice), and I totally loved iCab's tabbed browsing, it seemed to make 
the slow crawl of it SLIGHTLY less painful. When I started using OS X and 
Safari -- even though Safari is warp speed in comparison to iCab, and 
browsing is no longer a painful experience, I still miss iCab's easy 
tabbed browsing (I'm on dialup, and while everything loads way faster on 
Safari than it ever did on iCab, it's still a fact that some sites load 
faster than others, and I think it's nice to have several sites loading 
up at once, and then click on each tab as some come in before others, 
which are ready for me when I get to them. Yeah, I CAN open URLs in tabs 
with Safari, but iCab was actually "easier" to do that with -- it's the 
ONLY thing I miss from iCab, even though Safari is way better in all the 
OTHER respects, without exception.

About Firefox -- this was originally one of those "now that I'm on OS X 
and CAN use it, let's give it a try and see if it's as wonderful as my 
boyfriend says it is" kind of things. He totally loves Firefox and uses 
it as his exclusive browser (I should also note here that while he 
finally got a Mac, a G4 Cube that came with Panther but he just bought 
Tiger for it, he was "brought up" on a combination of DOS and Unix, and 
his main machines are PCs running Linux, and that's how he's running his 
Firefox). But I liked Safari so much even without the easy tabbed 
browsing that I never got around to my Firefox tryout. Well, okay, 
Martin, you've just told me it's time for me to go download Firefox and 
try it out!  :-) 

Isn't it funny how one person will see a particular feature as a 
negative, and someone else, upon hearing him grumble about it, want to go 
jump on it?  ;-)

~Yersinia.



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