Chris writes, <Safari occasionally "locks up" the computer completely. I've noticed that this occurs mostly when Emailer begins its 20 minute schedule. That's the only time I have to restart my computer.
I have a semi regular issue with Safari where it starts to slow down, and if ignored will eventually hang. It hasn't crashed my Mac forcing any kind of a restart, but it has "hung" it significantly where force quitting Safari has been difficult. Now, when I notice Safari starting to slow down (about every two weeks or so), I simply quit it and relaunch it, and the problem goes away. I'm guessing it is some kind of either memory leak or some cache problem that isn't being cleared so over time it builds up and causes problems. This is on 10.4.8 Intel with Safari 2.0.4 (419.3)> I just checked my Safari to see what version I have, and yes, it's also 2.0.4 (419.3) -- running with 10.4.8 but not on an Intel -- I've never noticed Safari slow down (much less crawl!), and it hasn't ever hung, locked up or "unexpectedly quit" on me at any time. This discussion of bad Safari behavior caught my attention because for me, Safari always behaves beautifully, to the point where I haven't yet gotten motivated enough to do my planned tryout of Firefox. (BTW, what "20 minute schedule" for Emailer do you mean?) And on the subject of Firefox, this is finally going to motivate me to give that a whirl. Martin writes, <I didn't bother to mention Safari faults that are unrelated to running "Classic". Yes, my Safari also slows down to a crawl occasionally and I have to restart it. It also crashes at least once a week when I click on a "Submit" button (a web site form or a discussion forum post window). I just put this down to "normal" Safari operation. This is on non-Intel 10.4.8 with Safari 2.0.4 (419.3)> First things first though: Well, my Classic Mode is always up and running in the background at the very least, but I've done plenty of "submit" on web site forms and discussion forum windows in Safari -- with no crashing at any time. For me, smooth Safari operation is what's "normal." <If I didn't dislike Firefox so much (tabs and hidden favourites) I'd use that instead. But I prefer the Safari interface.> Tabbed browsing, huh? COOL! Before I got OS X and started surfing on Safari, the browser I ended up going with permanently was iCab (other browsers I'd used or tried, pre-OS X, were Netscape, Mozilla and, before I deleted it, I actually tried the Internet Exploiter which came with OS 9, twice), and I totally loved iCab's tabbed browsing, it seemed to make the slow crawl of it SLIGHTLY less painful. When I started using OS X and Safari -- even though Safari is warp speed in comparison to iCab, and browsing is no longer a painful experience, I still miss iCab's easy tabbed browsing (I'm on dialup, and while everything loads way faster on Safari than it ever did on iCab, it's still a fact that some sites load faster than others, and I think it's nice to have several sites loading up at once, and then click on each tab as some come in before others, which are ready for me when I get to them. Yeah, I CAN open URLs in tabs with Safari, but iCab was actually "easier" to do that with -- it's the ONLY thing I miss from iCab, even though Safari is way better in all the OTHER respects, without exception. About Firefox -- this was originally one of those "now that I'm on OS X and CAN use it, let's give it a try and see if it's as wonderful as my boyfriend says it is" kind of things. He totally loves Firefox and uses it as his exclusive browser (I should also note here that while he finally got a Mac, a G4 Cube that came with Panther but he just bought Tiger for it, he was "brought up" on a combination of DOS and Unix, and his main machines are PCs running Linux, and that's how he's running his Firefox). But I liked Safari so much even without the easy tabbed browsing that I never got around to my Firefox tryout. Well, okay, Martin, you've just told me it's time for me to go download Firefox and try it out! :-) Isn't it funny how one person will see a particular feature as a negative, and someone else, upon hearing him grumble about it, want to go jump on it? ;-) ~Yersinia. ________ "Mycelium is yourcelium." ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

