On Dec 6 2012 2:04 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:
> On 12/6/2012 3:38 PM, EBo wrote:
>> On Dec 6 2012 12:27 PM, Anders Wallin wrote:
>>>> Is the ±20us always happening during the startup?  If so, we can
>>>> probably work around this.  If it is periodic, or happens much
>>>> later,
>>>> then it points to a real issue.
>>>>
>>> On my machine the few events at +/- 20us do not occur immediately 
>>> on
>>> startup, but rather randomly after a short while.
>>> For these initial tests I was recording about 100k jitter values, 
>>> so
>>> for a
>>> 1ms thread it means I ran the logger for about 100 seconds.
>> OK.  I would say it is real then, and not a startup issue.  Good to
>> know...
>>
>>     EBo --
>
> Be careful not to generalize too much. My somewhat limited experience 
> is
> that every combination of
> (motherboard)+(bios)+(cpu)+(specific-rt-mechanism) is capable of
> exhibiting qualitatively different behavior. Whether it actually does
> is, to me, a matter of test, not conjecture. That's why I've tried to
> set up and test a number of different combinations as time permits.
>
> Several times you and others have talked about connecting the outlier
> events to other goings-on by comparing time-stamps with system logs. 
> Has
> anyone actually tried an experiment to do that?

First I guess I will explain that the one assumption that my previous 
comment made is that if the event happens every once and awhile after 
the latency tester starts up that it cannot be the startup sequence of 
the tester itself.  That is what I was commenting about.  As for the 
testing the timestamps to sys-logs, that only works if you have stack 
tracing (or some such) and/or are doing course things like (if I plug 
something into the USB  around 5 seconds into the program running, do I 
see it come up on the syslogs and any blips in the latency tester?  
Beyond that I have not had a need to provide such software 
instrumentation.  That of course was ad-hoc testing.  What I think we 
are talking about here is establishing some tools to either automate it, 
or at least start making a more principled approach.  So, yes I agree we 
need to be careful making more generalizations.  Oh yea, in the very 
distant past I have sat in front of an oscilloscope and looking for 
blips while I muck with the hardware.  But that again was rather ad-hoc.

   EBo --

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