good point.  Where should the classic ladder be grouped?  In its own 
bin, with HAL, with a generic parser/PLC?

On Jul 2 2013 7:43 AM, Dave wrote:
> I would also make sure that you can still use it with Classic Ladder 
> as
> a standalone also.   That could be very useful.
>
> Dave Cole
>
> On 7/2/2013 3:24 AM, Anders Wallin wrote:
>> Some random thoughts/discussion.
>>
>> To be useful a stand-alone HAL package also needs tools for building 
>> HAL
>> networks.
>> These include halscope, halmeter, siggen, etc. as well as any future
>> insanely great visual HAL-netlist creation and visualization 
>> software.
>> Hardware-drivers should also be included in the HAL-package, or 
>> perhaps
>> packaged individually so you only need to install the ones you want.
>>
>> Non-conventional HAL-applications (temperature-controller, 
>> datalogger,
>> weather-station, etc) require non-conventional hardware drivers. 
>> There's a
>> bunch of work on DAQ cards with linux at http://www.comedi.org/   I 
>> wonder
>> how much work is involved in using a comedi driver through HAL?
>>
>> I am interested in developing small embedded 
>> controllers/user-interfaces
>> for various lab-applications such as temperature control, 
>> datalogging etc.
>> These would also require some sort of user-interface, similar to 
>> pyvcp or
>> gladevcp, which would work on a minimal linux-install (some embedded 
>> boards
>> do not have gpu/cpu power to run a full X install).
>>
>> Anders
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Chris 
>> Morley<chrisinnana...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This was a tabled item from the last meeting.
>>> The consensus seemed to be the idea had merit but discussion was 
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> Micheal's proposal was a 'machiekit' package that included:
>>>
>>>   "Machinekit would be HAL+RTAPI+NML replacement (zeromq+protobuf)"
>>>
>>> The idea here is that HAL is a great piece of code that has a 
>>> fairly easy
>>> boundary
>>> to break it out of liuxcnc.
>>>
>>> Then other projects could use it and hopefully improve it and maybe 
>>> join
>>> our group.
>>> Modularity also makes it easier for people to digest the code so as 
>>> to be
>>> able to contribute.
>>> John K's original idea for HAL was similar (as I understand it).
>>>
>>> I'm for all it.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure of the downside other then it's work to do.
>>> I assume others wish to discuss the NML replacement
>>>
>>> Chris M
>>>
>>>
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