On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 01:08:41PM +0100, Niemand Sonst wrote:
> I took the first hurdle, the UEFI Bios and could install Debian 8.2 - 
> amd64 - MATE, but the second hurdle installing LinuxCNC from the ISO 
> could not be taken, because UEFI Bios only accept 64-bit operating 
> systems, even with security boot disabled!

I am sorry you purchased defective hardware.  You should consider
returning it for a refund if you still can.

[...]
> After sorting most of the stuff out, I added the linuxcnc repositories:
> 
> deb     http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ jessie 2.7-rtpreempt
> deb-src http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ jessie 2.7-rtpreempt
> 
> and installed LinuxCNC.
> 
> OK Latency test shows 32035966 ns, that is the highest I ever got! Even a 
> virtual machine is better ;-) But i did no optimation till now.

It is quite likely that after performing these steps *you are not
operating with a realtime kernel*.  uspace will run both on vanilla
kernels (but without using realtime task priority) and on preempt-rt
kernels (using realtime task priority).  Only in the latter case (and if
your computer has acceptable RT performance) will you get good latency.

Unfortunately, a preempt-rt kernel is not currently available from
Debian for 8.x -- there *was* one in jessie-backports, but they deleted
it.

Seb's RTAI kernel for 64-bit systems crashes, so I similarly can't
recommend that.

However, for developing user interface software, uspace non-realtime is
typically adequate.  For running attached hardware over ethernet, not so
much.  I woudln't recommend it even for testing.

> After installing "gstreamer0.10-plugins-base" the start went OK. Jeff could 
> you please add that dependence?

Yes.   Done.

> Neverthereless the code for both GUI must be adapted to avoid such an error, 
> only for not beeing present "sound". I will fix that as soon as my
> new development system is running.
> 
> I do connect the laptop with WLAN0 to the world and want to use eth0 to 
> connect to a MESA 7i76E to control my testing hardware.
> But as far as I found out till now, that will not be possible, because ther 
> is no realtime kernel for Jessie 64 bit
> and the info on buildbot is not correct.

So, nobody has written the install instructions for Debian Jessie with
preempt-rt.  It should be possible using snapshot.debian.org, which
still has an archive of the preempt-rt kernel from jessie-backports.
(The kernel was withdrawn not because it was broken, but because Debian
testing's development moved on to a kernel without a RT patch)

    http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/4.1.3-1/

.. but having just spent 15 minutes trying to do so I haven't yet been
successful at getting apt to automatically download and install these
packages.

> - Does wheesy support 64 bit completly ?

I used wheezy with preempt-rt kernel in the past.  There is a preempt-rt
kernel in main for wheezy.
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=wheezy&keywords=linux-image-rt-amd64

Jeff

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