I take off my hat .... in that year I was at elemtary scool ... and I do my first hello world program on a commodore 64. .... with my regret however in the programming I have not been constant .... so today I am half lame in many things. ... but I know many other things about technical world (i sell chip tool for 2 years for exampe) so I'm quite happy of my programmer life. I'm a bad programmer but at least I know what needs to be done for make a good machinery.
bkt Il giorno sab 13 ott 2018 alle ore 14:48 Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> ha scritto: > On Saturday 13 October 2018 04:44:02 theman whosoldtheworld wrote: > > > @ Gene Haskett > > > > > Some of us have expended many days/weeks of time to get the xml just > > > right (in our opinions of course) and we would be quite reticent to > > > re-invent them in some other description language. For instance, if > > > and when I ever get a dependable camera setup on the G0704, the gui > > > stuff to use it is already composed and hopefully useable with the > > > align.zip utility. > > > > real sorry never I never thought of it in these terms. I've always > > used lcnc only for handmade robotics, > > so most of the features I've never used and most do not know them. > > From this point of view, writing everything for many would be a real > > drain. > > > > bkt > > > Chuckle, warning, old (84) fart at work. :) > > 85+% of the 265 .ngc files in my G0704's nc_files directory are files I > wrote. g-code is not that hard to write by hand. And I use loops and > subroutines extensively because they are a time and typu saver where > there is only one or two var's being continually adjusted. > > I have one 90 LOC file on my little hf mill that takes 3 days to run, but > the result is a 10" tablesaw carbide toothed blade thats easily 10x > sharper and much longer lasting than any factory made saw blade. > > > Il giorno ven 12 ott 2018 alle ore 23:22 Gene Heskett > > <ghesk...@shentel.net> > > > > ha scritto: > > > On Friday 12 October 2018 13:22:06 Chris Morley wrote: > > > > Jon: > > > > > > > > The issue is really the GLADE editor. > > > > Current GLADE editors do not support GTK2 widgets. > > > > PyGTK only supports GTK2 widgets. > > > > We have forward ported old versions of GLADE for linuxcnc. > > > > > > > > PyGTK is not being developed any more, though the runtime library > > > > should be safe for sometime yet, so what works now will continue > > > > to work in the foreseeable future. (making new panels just gets > > > > more difficult because of having to use old GLADE editors) > > > > > > > > There is no path forward for GTK based VCP yet. > > > > Current work has been on QT based VCP, which would require > > > > building new panels. > > > > > > How hard would it be to either make QTVCP either use the current xml > > > and matching hal files, or to write a one-time translator that > > > would? > > > > > > Some of us have expended many days/weeks of time to get the xml just > > > right (in our opinions of course) and we would be quite reticent to > > > re-invent them in some other description language. For instance, if > > > and when I ever get a dependable camera setup on the G0704, the gui > > > stuff to use it is already composed and hopefully useable with the > > > align.zip utility. > > > > > > > To complicate things further python 2 is at end of life, and > > > > python 3 is different enough that its not a small task to switch > > > > (it's mostly the C/C++ extensions of python that's the trouble) > > > > > > And thats yet another hurdle to jump over/thru. Sadly I've not > > > glommed onto the language well enough to do the conversions needed. > > > > > > > Chris M > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> > > > > Sent: October 12, 2018 4:36 PM > > > > To: EMC developers > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK > > > > > > > > On 10/12/2018 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 08:37, theman whosoldtheworld > > > > > > > > > > <bleachk...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> About GoObject and other .... the language structure is pretty > > > > >> similar to c++ ... so why not use directly c++ for ui instead > > > > >> all other languages? > > > > > > Because ideally it should be built at launch time so that we can > > > nearly instantly see the results. I would really hate to give that > > > ability to see the results in 15 seconds up. > > > > > > > > GladeVCP and PyVCP are specifically provided to aid user > > > > > configuration and customisation. > > > > > > pyvcp has worked well within its limits, gladeVCP has never been > > > workable here at the coyote,den. > > > > > > > So, is there any issue with PyVCP or is it only GladeVCP? > > > > > > My issue with pyvcp has always been its wasted screen real estate > > > because we cannot control the background color with at least a 2 > > > line, 3 or 4 color choice to be used as a status of this function > > > tally, that and the excessive "white" space around the text in a > > > text box. That alone multiply's the screen real estate used by > > > around 4x. > > > > > > GladeVCP might address _some_ of this. But not all. Which is why I'd > > > like to see QTVCP come to a testable state. So when you are ready > > > for vic,ah testers, I ought to be able to try it. :-) > > > > > > > Is there a simple path to move whatever VCP forward to the > > > > new versions? I use this stuff, but only understand a small > > > > bit of what goes on in the lower levels. I have developed > > > > some Glade-designed panels for totally unrelated systems > > > > that are interfaced from C. I use Glade to lay out all the > > > > widgets on the panel and create the xml, and then usually > > > > end up hand-editing the xml file to link to all the c > > > > variables. This is probably not the way you are supposed to > > > > do it, but that's what I had to do to get it to work. I > > > > seemed to have a lot of problems getting Glade to go back in > > > > and edit the xml without messing things up. > > > > > > > > Thanks for any insight, > > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > -- > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. 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