On Friday 12 October 2018 13:22:06 Chris Morley wrote: > Jon: > > The issue is really the GLADE editor. > Current GLADE editors do not support GTK2 widgets. > PyGTK only supports GTK2 widgets. > We have forward ported old versions of GLADE for linuxcnc. > > PyGTK is not being developed any more, though the runtime library > should be safe for sometime yet, so what works now will continue to > work in the foreseeable future. (making new panels just gets more > difficult because of having to use old GLADE editors) > > There is no path forward for GTK based VCP yet. > Current work has been on QT based VCP, which would require building > new panels.
How hard would it be to either make QTVCP either use the current xml and matching hal files, or to write a one-time translator that would? Some of us have expended many days/weeks of time to get the xml just right (in our opinions of course) and we would be quite reticent to re-invent them in some other description language. For instance, if and when I ever get a dependable camera setup on the G0704, the gui stuff to use it is already composed and hopefully useable with the align.zip utility. > > To complicate things further python 2 is at end of life, and python 3 > is different enough that its not a small task to switch (it's mostly > the C/C++ extensions of python that's the trouble) And thats yet another hurdle to jump over/thru. Sadly I've not glommed onto the language well enough to do the conversions needed. > > Chris M > ________________________________ > From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> > Sent: October 12, 2018 4:36 PM > To: EMC developers > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK > > On 10/12/2018 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 08:37, theman whosoldtheworld > > > > <bleachk...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> About GoObject and other .... the language structure is pretty > >> similar to c++ ... so why not use directly c++ for ui instead all > >> other languages? Because ideally it should be built at launch time so that we can nearly instantly see the results. I would really hate to give that ability to see the results in 15 seconds up. > > GladeVCP and PyVCP are specifically provided to aid user > > configuration and customisation. > pyvcp has worked well within its limits, gladeVCP has never been workable here at the coyote,den. > So, is there any issue with PyVCP or is it only GladeVCP? My issue with pyvcp has always been its wasted screen real estate because we cannot control the background color with at least a 2 line, 3 or 4 color choice to be used as a status of this function tally, that and the excessive "white" space around the text in a text box. That alone multiply's the screen real estate used by around 4x. GladeVCP might address _some_ of this. But not all. Which is why I'd like to see QTVCP come to a testable state. So when you are ready for vic,ah testers, I ought to be able to try it. :-) > Is there a simple path to move whatever VCP forward to the > new versions? I use this stuff, but only understand a small > bit of what goes on in the lower levels. I have developed > some Glade-designed panels for totally unrelated systems > that are interfaced from C. I use Glade to lay out all the > widgets on the panel and create the xml, and then usually > end up hand-editing the xml file to link to all the c > variables. This is probably not the way you are supposed to > do it, but that's what I had to do to get it to work. I > seemed to have a lot of problems getting Glade to go back in > and edit the xml without messing things up. > > Thanks for any insight, > > Jon > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
