> Am 19.04.2020 um 22:46 schrieb Chris Morley <chrisinnana...@hotmail.com>:
>
>
> On 2020-04-19 1:07 p.m., mar...@r-bechtold.de wrote:
>> the problem is that this distros are that old and EOL that you even can not
>> just install it, do to missing repo servers that are shut off
> If it's an already installed version then they don't need the repo.
But you need it for setup and testing in development
>>
>> You have to program around problems fixed in newer distro versions or you
>> have to backport fixes just for a hand full of running installations and you
>> have to test all off it.
>
> This is part of having a project like this. and of course at some point it
> becomes more trouble then it is worth. I don't see that we are at that point.
> These are optional drivers we are talking of. When motion can not compile any
> more then I agree. and obviously there is a tipping point somewhere in
> between these two extreme examples. I am saying that the first time an
> optional driver can't be easily made to compile that we drop everything thing
> old.
>
> I mean we are still stuck on python2 - so talking about optional drivers
> holding us back is a bit odd.
>
Something like this will active prevent innovation for the regular installation
because you have to backport all feature to a OS you don't have a test
environment for.
Stucking on python2 is not an argument its a symptom of this problems.
>>
>> That is just wasting valuable Developer time missing in the support of
>> essential features.
> These weren't essential features.The easiest fix is to just not compile them
> on older systems - I;m not a make file guru but that doesn't sound like too
> much effort . There are plenty of bigger reasons we don't have enough
> 'developer time'
>> Its realy not that Hard to update to a new distor, if you want to use a
>> newer Linuxcnc version. You have to port your configs anyway.
>>
>> Markus
>>
> That is absolutely not true. (and we are talking uses here not developers).
>
> Even as a developer I find it a PITA sometimes. my Lathe computer I think is
> on wheezy because I could not find a kernel that would work with stretch but
> I do keep updating it fairly often in 2.8 (because master does not support
> wheezy and 2.8 and master where very close )
>
> We are the Debian of machine controllers. Slow to upgrade, stable and boring
> :)
>
>
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