Am 04.12.22 um 12:41 schrieb Rod Webster:
Hans,
This is what I mean. People here have never bothered to get familiar with
the greatest achievement in the dev area in 20 years! Debian packaging!
Debian Bookworm (aka testing) has been installable from an ISO on the
Debian web site ever since Bullseye was released.
Google run their whole organisation on bookworm..... Don't believe the rot
about it being unstable.
The current kernel is 6.0 from memory.
I would start with the Bookworm alpha release which includes the non-free
firmware (which will be included as standard when it goes live)
https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
I usually use the net installer otherwise you might have to comment out
the CD lines in sources.list
In recent days, Linuxcnc does not seem to like the Wayland based graphical
environments in Bookworm (eg the default gnome), Instead I recommend
installing our old favourite XFCE which is Xorg based. If you forget this,
you can do it later by using tasksel and select XFCE later from the log on
screen.
Do not add a root password so the default user can use sudo.
Once Debian is installed, all you need to do is type:
sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-uspace
sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-uspace-dev (for the dev tools like halcompile)
sudo apt-get install mesaflesh (for mesa users)
Thats it! PREEMPT_RT gets installed and everything will be in the cnc menus
etc due to the magic of Debian.
You might like to disable autologon and the screensaver. This will vary
between gnome and xfce so a quick google will tell you how to do it.
It will install happily on a VM on Windows such as VMware player or virtual
box.
Yes for installing there are ISOs available, but I was talking about a
live-version.
I gave it a try and installed the bookworm alpha 1 and installed
linuxcnc-uspace via apt. Went quite smooth but at the end there were
still dependencies missing for running Gmoccapy.
Besides that, these points speaks for an own ISO:
- installing linuxcnc from the debian repository requires internet
access, not every workshop computer might have that
- when not using the net install version, you have to chose the DVD
version which is bigger (~twice the size compared to current buster images)
- picking the correct version from unstable could be also an obstacle
for new users (as well as the bookworm installer shows "Debian 11"...)
The last two points would fall away when Bookworm is official released.
But until then...
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 21:08, Hans Unzner <hansunz...@gmail.com> wrote:
Am 30.11.22 um 19:58 schrieb Rod Webster:
I would hazard a guess you could download the debian ISO, install it and
linuxcnc-uspace
in the same time as it would take to download and install our own ISO
purely because of
the superior bandwidth and global mirrors in the Debian environment.
The problem here is that Bookworm isn't released yet and you can't get a
live-ISO from the official sources.
I think the download time doesn't matter here - you can do something
else during this...
It's really disappointing to see people in this group who do not
understand
our Debian install process
and the benefits it brings.
Then maybe it's time to teach/tell them? ;-)
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