@hans, I'm glad you found the process smooth.
If you found missing dependencies for Gmoccapy, the correct approach would
be to log an issue and list the missing dependencies that should be added
to the package. That's your fault as a gmocappy maintainer if it remains a
gotcha.

Yes it is annoying that Debian hides the bookworm ISOs. The other place to
get them is from the weekly builds but since the alpha version has been
built, it's easier to find now.

In any case, Bookworm changes continually so net install is likely the best
option. eg. It has had Kernels 1.15,5,17,5,19 and 6.0 since I've used it.
Once bookworm is released, the internet challenged could just order a DVD
if they wished.

Ever since I first started to install linuxcnc, it has always been
recommended to me to do it with a wired internet connection. There is
inevitably something required that is not on the ISO. I would never
consider an installation without internet.

@Andy, For users with modern hardware, there are many more gotchas due to
lack of driver support in  our current buster ISO. This is what has driven
me and many others to Debian in the first place. I am still waiting to
review a working bootable Debian ISO from you and Steffen. As of last
attempt it was still missing a kernel.
Of all the gotchas here, the only real issue is the one in our control and
that dependencies.

@hans if you look at the problem just reported on the forum you linked to,
note that the user is running bullseye (confirmed by the 5.10 kernel
version). This I expect means he compiled from source. It needs resolution
by the Gmocappy team to resolve his problem (likely missing dependencies
like you experienced). I am sure if our deb build system knew of your
additional dependencies, the issue would never have been experienced.


Rod Webster
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Vehicle Modifications Network
www.vehiclemods.net.au


On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 05:27, andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 11:45, Rod Webster <r...@vehiclemods.net.au> wrote:
>
> > In recent days, Linuxcnc does not seem to like the Wayland based
> graphical
> > ...
> > Do not add a root password so the default user can use sudo.
> > ...
>
> You might like to disable autologon and the screensaver.
>
>
> That's three "gotchas" that can catch out the unitiated, but that can be
> avoided in our own installer.
> The LinuxCNC ISO exists to lower the bar for those new users who may never
> have used Linux at all (I was one such, I had never looked at Linux until I
> decided to control my CNC machine with LinuxCNC)
> A new user needs to download and install an ISO anyway, so it might as well
> be the one that does all the work rather that one that leaves the steps you
> enumerate to be done later.
>
> Another advantage of our Live image is that it allows putative users to try
> out the system (and run a latency test) on their existing computers to see
> which are good candidates.
>
> For users who already have a working Linux installation, of course,
> installing from the packages is the way to go.
> But the ISO is not for them.
>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>
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