Am 30.11.2022 um 19:12 schrieb Chris Morley:
The difference is free cad doesn't compete with anything in linuxcnc. Qtpycp 
does. If they wanted to be included in linuxcnc, then they would have been part 
of the project. They made a choice.
Otherwise as I said you are undermining the hard work of the devs that are 
active in our project.

I consider all our users to be somehow part of our project and am
agnostic about the interface they are using. From how I see it, if
PyQtVCP does something better than QtVCP then QtVCP gets some
encouragement and ideas on how to improve and vice versa. Both GUIs
should be as easy to install and use as possible.

Best,
Steffen



-------- Original message --------
From: Steffen Moeller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de>
Date: 2022-11-30 9:35 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German 
friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller


Am 29.11.2022 um 19:06 schrieb Chris Morley:
Are you discussing an official linuxcnc release of ISOs?
So I hope.
Are you suggesting including qtpyvcp on the ISO?
There are four Python modules missing in Debian to do so, from what I
have yet understood. But I feel motivated to help out, just locally
packaged oyaml.
In my mind that undermines qtvcp which is actually part of linuxcnc.
Full disclosure, qtvcp is project I started so I am slightly biased.
My motivation is to bring the best of Open Source CNC on Linux together
to help myself and others. And from what I hear and see, this includes
PyQtVCP. You may have a point for the minimal version of that .iso, but
for the full featured one it should be in, also FreeCAD and inkscape.

Steffen

-------- Original message --------
From: Steffen Möller <steffen_moel...@gmx.de>
Date: 2022-11-29 8:53 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
To: LinuxCNC Dev Mailing List <emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German 
friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller

Hello,

No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller machine and passes the 
Sinumeric control
https://youtu.be/zToKZtqQMIo?t=354
with some excitement. I actually find LinuxCNC even nicer, especially for what 
I saw from https://www.qtpyvcp.com/ .

When we yesterday had this OpenMike session again, we had felt like there 
should be four USB sticks prepared:
    a) for two distros - Bullseye (Debian stable) and Bookworm (Debian testing, 
soon stable)
    b) in two flavours - minimalistic and fully-featured (including FreeCAD and 
Inkscape to make a good impression on those who come from the other OS)

Andy had some confidence (and I share that) that the generation of those .iso 
files per se is not difficult. It was not immediately clear where the 
generation of those .iso files should happen, but the builders maintained by 
Sebastian are a likely target IMO.

Question: Is there anybody out there who would like to work with me on a 
description and implementation of what the fully-featured .ISO should like 
alike? This would be Intel-only as a start, leaving everything for the RPi to 
Raspbian for the time being.

There are a couple of Python libraries still missing on Debian to get QtPyVCP 
installed. This would likely be something for me to address.

Best,
Steffem



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