Randy, I found that spacing ferrites a few inches -- 5 cm -- apart for about 500 cm (18") did the job on FMBC intermod at Fountain Valley. A similar spacing worked at the Santiago Canyon site, but they elected to add ferrites below-ground as the problem was different.
Cortland ====================== Original Message Follows ==================== >> Date: 13-Nov-98 13:10:07 MsgID: 1065-36936 ToID: 72146,373 From: "Flinders, Randall" >INTERNET:randall.flind...@emulex.com Subj: RE: ANSI C63.4 Chrg: $0.00 Imp: Norm Sens: Std Receipt: No Parts: 1 When attaching the Ferrites, do they need only be attached to the Vertical portion of the cable? Assuming the common mode currents force the cable to become an active element in the "system", then it would stand to reason that the portion of the cable runn! ing across the Mast mounting bar (perpendicular to the antenna elements) and the portion running along the ground plane would not contribute significant effects on the NSA results. Is this assumption correct? Also, what spacing of the ferrites has been found to be required in order to eliminate this effect? I am also assuming that Ferrites are then left on during all product testing as well. Regards, Randy Flinders EMC Engineer Emulex Network Systems (714) 513-8012 randall.flind...@emulex.com ---------- From: Colin Brench Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 6:04 AM To: 'EMC PSTC mail list' Subject: RE: ANSI C63.4 Concerning the discussions on the use of ferrite loaded feed cables during NSA (or any other measurements). There have been a number of useful replies already but I would like to add a bit more information for your consideration. Using a feed cable which is co-polarized with the antenna will result in that cable becoming a second element in an antenna array due to the currents induced on to it. While the position of the feed is fixed at the top and sometimes the bottom also, it is free to move around somewhat which can effect the degree of coupling especially where the movement is a significant part of a wavelength. The ferrites will greatly minimize this induced current and so practically eliminate this effect. As far as having perfectly balanced antennas, this is possible in free space, but if you use any antenna vertically polarized and close to the ground plane, the loading of the ground plane does imbalance the antenna. This is most noticed at lower frequencies where the height above the ground plane is minimal. Horizontally the balance should be preserved, but, the source impedance of the antenna will be altered due to the loading effect of the ground plane, resulting is a change in match (or rather degree of mismatch :-)). No one would think of using a metal antenna mast for vertical measurements, but few worry about the feed cable. These effects are easier to see and understand in terms of the transmit antenna, but they apply equally to the receive antenna. There have been a number of papers presented at the IEEE EMC symposia over the years, from about 1990 on if I remember correctly. One this year looked at the errors in using the free space (real) antenna factor with for a biconnical being used for anechoic chamber NSA measurements - unfortunately I don't have the reference to hand. Regards, Colin Brench. Compaq Maynard, MA --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). ====================== End of Original Message ===================== --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).