Max makes a very good point, but, I believe that this group should remain as non-commercial as possible.
Chris Kendall presents several useful EMC design seminars (according to the student surveys). However, these seminars are sold by CKC Laboratories, a company that he owns, which is also a test laboratory. Being perfectly honest, CKC uses these seminars as a marketing tool as well as a revenue source. These are not 'really inexpensive' seminars and there is nothing 'held back' to be taught at a more expensive seminar. Yes, we believe that we are sharing useful, beneficial EMC design knowledge. We also know that the seminars are a marketing tool that introduces testing and consulting customers to our knowledge and expertise. Knowing my motives are not dissimilar to other test laboratories that sponsor seminars (several have "hosted" Henry Ott), I would say that 'seminar advertising' is not a good direction for this group to go in. Todd Robinson Marketing Manager CKC Laboratories, Inc. 800-500-4362 http://www.ckc.com -----Original Message----- From: Max Kelson [SMTP:mkel...@es.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 11:37 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Re[2]: Upcoming EMC Seminar I would vote to allow a continuation of posting of EMC/safety seminars. This is valuable information and Henry Ott, for instance, is certainly a prestigious contributor to the field. On the flip side, though, I believe that EMC and safety consultants have some obligation to make contributions to this forum and it seems like they never do. In addition, the papers they submit to the journals seem to sometimes lack the detailed information that would make them useful in a practical sense. Even in their seminars some of these experts seem to prefer to simply grind out the same old basic and abstract stuff while saving the more useful information for some "special" or "separate" seminar costing still more money. The bottom line, I guess, is that we should start asking them to participate in this forum, when appropriate, in exchange for advertising privileges. I suggest members should also provide negative feedback on seminars that don't provide practical, useful information, substantiated by emissions tests. Max Kelson mkel...@es.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hulbert [SMTP:hulbe...@pb.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 8:56 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org; richard_c...@iris.scitex.com Subject: Re[2]: Upcoming EMC Seminar According to the Charter and Guidelines (10 March 1995) "blatant or overt advertising of goods or services is not permitted". I think this is a good rule. This should not be a forum for "free" advertising. There are plenty of other appropriate avenues for people to advertise their goods and services. Jim Hulbert ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Upcoming EMC Seminar Author: "Richard Cass" <richard_c...@iris.scitex.com> at SMTPGWY Date: 2/10/98 8:21 AM I thought that blatant advertising of services, including FOR PROFIT seminars, was not allowed on EMC-PSTC forum. Am I wrong? Regards, Richard Cass ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Upcoming EMC Seminar Author: mlwald...@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 2/10/98 4:29 AM We just wanted to take this opportunity to let every one know that there are still a few seats available to attend the EMC Seminar being presented by Mr. Henry Ott and hosted by RhienTexas, Inc. For further information check out the web page at www.rheintech.com/seminar.html. Those of you that wish to attend are urged to register by Febrauary 20, 1998. There is a correction that must be noted about the information provided on the above web page, the price for this two day seminar is not $750 it is $675 per participant. Thank you, Murrell Waldron RhienTexas, Inc. 1701 E Plano Pkwy, Suite 150 Plano, TX 75074 P: 972-509-2566 F: 972-509-0073 email: mlwald...@aol.com
