Hi,

The guidelines on the LVD state that the documentation has to be kept "for
at least ten years from the last date of manufacture of the product."  Other
Directives talk about the lifetime of the unit but not less than 5 years.  I
guess the answer depends on what is longer.  10 years or the lifetime of the
product.

Ned Devine
Entela, Inc.
Program Manager III
Phone 616 248 9671
Fax  616 574 9752
e-mail  ndev...@entela.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ehler, Kyle [mailto:kyle.eh...@lsil.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:32 PM
To: Scott Douglas; 'EMC-PSTC'
Subject: RE: Record Retention



Hi Scott,
A while back I inquired with TUV, UL and FCC about this very subject.
UL and TUV is pretty loose about manufacturer's recordkeeping of production
run information, but product safety test data and related filing information
is expected to be retained for at least seven years after last production
date according to Kevin Hyland (x42652), the RROP for ITE records at the
Northbrook office of UL (847 272 8800).  For factory records, the point is
fairly moot as long as a FUS program is in place with quarterly inspections
conducted which include dielectric and ground bond procedures on %100 of
production and test equipment start of day checks. 
The FCC wants records maintained the same period or longer, but since the
two are closely related to agency compliance, archiving both EMC and Safety
data in one place is just good business practice.  Our lab is in process of
getting all but originals into electronic form and packing it onto CD-Roms.
A dollar a CD-R is a lot less than a zip disk...
Incidentally, UL still maintains records from their first inception.  They
reportedly have product records over 100 years old.

I was investigating this on a proactive basis in efforts to prod our factory
into keeping more detailed records.  The data could be useful in tracking
break-ins of changes to the manufacturing process in event of a call-back.
This would make the task of tracing thousands of products in the field as
simple as associating the serial number list with the customer shipping
list.
The effort was like pushing a rope uphill -I failed anyway.
Kyle Ehler  kyle.eh...@lsil.com <mailto:kyle.eh...@lsil.com>  
Ass. Design Engineer
LSI Logic Storage Systems Division
3718 N. Rock Road
U.S.A.  Wichita, Kansas  67226
Ph. 316 636 8657
Fax 316 636 8889
Fax 316 636 8315

Kyle Ehler  kyle.eh...@lsil.com <mailto:kyle.eh...@lsil.com>  
Design Engineer
LSI Logic Storage Systems Division
3718 N. Rock Road
U.S.A.  Wichita, Kansas  67226
Ph. 316 636 8657
Fax 316 636 8889
Fax 316 636 8315


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Scott Douglas [SMTP:s_doug...@ecrm.com]
        Sent:   Thursday, July 22, 1999 8:35 AM
        To:     'EMC-PSTC'
        Subject:        Record Retention


        I have a question about record retention.

        We make ITE which incorporates lasers and certify to LVD, EMC
directives. 
        We do not create a TCF specifically. We do have outside lab test
reports 
        for safety and for EMC. We also have the usual parts lists and CAD
drawings 
        for fabrication and assembly along with test procedures. We do
record all 
        production tests required for each product shipped.

        What documents do we need to keep and how long do we need to keep
them?

        We keep the form where we record production tests required for
compliance 
        (hipot, ground continuity, laser safety, etc.) for ten years. What 
        engineering drawings, parts lists, test procedures, etc. do we need
to keep 
        and for how long? Can anyone point me to a specific reference that
requires 
        this?

        Thank you in advance for your comments.

        Scott
        s_doug...@ecrm.com


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